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by longbow
Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:49 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: CHL's and felony charges?
Replies: 61
Views: 9126

Re: CHL's and felony charges?

Gambit,

I was going to sit down here and write a very long response to your last reply but I'm going to try not to do that. Basically, I definitely see your frustration and I agree that the law is not fair. If I was in your situation I'm sure I would feel the same way.

You and I are not going to agree about this, we are both looking at this issue from highly personal perspectives. It would be great if the government offered a way for law abiding citizens to expunge their record after a time but it does not and until it does, I am not in favor of people who have a criminal record of any kind carrying chls (I'm not trying to single you out, the op's father should not carry).

But hey, that's just my opinion, mileage may vary.

I wish you the very best!
by longbow
Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:34 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: CHL's and felony charges?
Replies: 61
Views: 9126

Re: CHL's and felony charges?

Gambit wrote:
CC Italian wrote:I think I am with gigag04 on this.
Disagree.

Burg of a hab, while not violent, definitely affects people. Youve been there when you take that report and the wife is too scared to even stay at the ransacked house.
It's defiantly not a victim-less crime in the mental sense! It's one thing if a non violent felon is allowed to own a gun in his home after a certain amount of time. All people should be able to protect themselves in their "castle" (except violent criminals, they have lost their right to own a firearm) but to allow a convicted felon to get a CHL is a little much for me reformed or not.

Carrying around a firearm on your person is a huge responsibility! Let me put it this way; I know it isn't exactly the same thing but would you want a non violent reformed felon to be allowed to become a law enforcement officer and carry a weapon? Heck, you can lose your state teaching license for getting a first offense DWI for ten years!

My point is I think a CHL should be held to the same standard as a LEO when it comes to criminal record. I might get blasted for this by others but it is my opinion but then again you know what they say about opinions. Owning a firearm in your home to me is very different then being allowed to carry a loaded weapon almost everywhere you want, you must have a good track record!
You have a right to your opinions and I respect that. Laws however are absolute and we as humans should not deal in absolutes. There exceptions to every rule and rules for every exception.

What makes you as an individual have more rights than I; to protect your family?

I made a mistake in college egged on by friends, in my youthful stupidity, I made a seriously bad judgment call. I believe the Judge saw the same and granted me deferred adjudication and saw fit to not only grant me with early dismissal from probation; but also granted me an order of nondisclosure.

I believe I have paid my debt to society. I pay more than my fair share of taxes and contribute to society in a productive way. I have not had so much as a speeding ticket since then. The friend’s father house that I broke into forgave me. But the wheels of justice were in motion.
For you to say that your spotless record entitles you to more protection from real hardend criminals than I is a hard pill to swallow. This mentality is along the lines of anti-gun/ anti-CHL congressmen that have CHL’s and carry guns.
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After all Laws are absolute, written by men that are felons themselves, Joe Driver (Now a FELON), in this case co-wrote the 30.02 addition I don’t have the Bill number now Irony at its finest.
What gives people like "him" more rights than you is the mere fact that having been where you were, "he" chose not to make the decisions you made. Your logic is similar to that of the 99%, why should some be rich while others are not? Because some people made better choices.

We have ALL faced pier pressure, and as wonderful as it is that you have been able to lead a fulfilling and upright life, it does not change the fact that there are consequences for succumbing to that pier pressure.

The law is absolute, it must be to protect society and deter wrong doing. From your own post, we can see that the law was very lenient and understanding with your case, it made what appears to be a sincere effort to lessen your penalty. You cannot infringe on another human beings basic rights and expect society not to punish you in the same manner.

I am writing this a person who has been a victim of both a home burglary and two vehicle thefts. No perpetrators were ever caught and none of my family's irreplaceable treasures were recovered. If I could punish the thieves I assure you they would receive far worse than a spot on their records. It is unacceptable to see your family scared to live in their own home and I hope that none of you ever have to experience that type of event.

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