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by Skiprr
Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:01 pm
Forum: Federal - 2008
Topic: Obama Campaign Threatens Stations Airing NRA Ads
Replies: 27
Views: 2628

Re: Obama Campaign Threatens Stations Airing NRA Ads

Feeling my well-researched and pithy comments might have been overlooked in this over-zealous Presidential campaign, here ya go again.

But seriously, just Google "Obama and ACORN and radical". If you're ambitious, you might Google "Obama and voter and fraud".
Skiprr wrote:Well, on the bias and hidden agenda front as we discuss FactCheck.org being funded by the Annenberg Foundation, let's not forget that it was $50 million of Annenberg Foundation dollars that started the Chicago Annenberg Challenge in 1995. The total funding--not exclusively from the Annenberg Foundation--during the seven years that the Chicago Annenberg Challenge existed is estimated at $160 million.

Just a few months before his first run for state office in Illinois, Barack Obama, then an associate in the law firm of Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland in Chicago, was named the first President and Chairman of the Board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC), a project which remained under the umbrella of the Annenberg Foundation. Arguably, this is the only executive-level experience Obama can point to on his resume. The founding impetus for the CAC was a decidedly shady character named Williams Ayers (who, by the way, has made several thousands of dollars in individual contributions to the Obama presidential campaign). Obama remained in those positions until the fall of 1999 when he stepped down and was replaced by Edward Bottum. The Chicago Annenberg Challenge closed its doors in January 2002.

If you haven't already come across this slice of Obama's history and would like some...er, interesting reading, Google "Obama and Ayres and Annenberg." For even more fun, Google "Obama and ACORN and radical." Add these activities to his decades-long ties to Jeremiah Wright and Michael Pfleger, plus eager support from the George Soros leftist machine...and, well, it's very difficult for me to come away without thinking that what I hear Obama say today is, as the NRA indicates, campaign rhetoric. If you look at his actions and past affiliations and his legislative record--what he's done--it paints a very different picture than the convivial, charismatic one we've seen on the campaign trail these past weeks.

This guy frightens me, and not just because of his stance on guns and the Second Amendment. Though even if all he ever had to say about guns, which piece FactCheck.org concedes is true, is that he wants federal legislation to prevent anyone but law enforcers from carrying concealed firearms, that alone would be frightening enough. See my signature line...
by Skiprr
Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:08 am
Forum: Federal - 2008
Topic: Obama Campaign Threatens Stations Airing NRA Ads
Replies: 27
Views: 2628

Re: Obama Campaign Threatens Stations Airing NRA Ads

Well, on the bias and hidden agenda front as we discuss FactCheck.org being funded by the Annenberg Foundation, let's not forget that it was $50 million of Annenberg Foundation dollars that started the Chicago Annenberg Challenge in 1995. The total funding--not exclusively from the Annenberg Foundation--during the seven years that the Chicago Annenberg Challenge existed is estimated at $160 million.

Just a few months before his first run for state office in Illinois, Barack Obama, then an associate in the law firm of Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland in Chicago, was named the first President and Chairman of the Board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC), a project which remained under the umbrella of the Annenberg Foundation. Arguably, this is the only executive-level experience Obama can point to on his resume. The founding impetus for the CAC was a decidedly shady character named Williams Ayers (who, by the way, has made several thousands of dollars in individual contributions to the Obama presidential campaign). Obama remained in those positions until the fall of 1999 when he stepped down and was replaced by Edward Bottum. The Chicago Annenberg Challenge closed its doors in January 2002.

If you haven't already come across this slice of Obama's history and would like some...er, interesting reading, Google "Obama and Ayres and Annenberg." For even more fun, Google "Obama and ACORN and radical." Add these activities to his decades-long ties to Jeremiah Wright and Michael Pfleger, plus eager support from the George Soros leftist machine...and, well, it's very difficult for me to come away without thinking that what I hear Obama say today is, as the NRA indicates, campaign rhetoric. If you look at his actions and past affiliations and his legislative record--what he's done--it paints a very different picture than the convivial, charismatic one we've seen on the campaign trail these past weeks.

This guy frightens me, and not just because of his stance on guns and the Second Amendment. Though even if all he ever had to say about guns, which piece FactCheck.org concedes is true, is that he wants federal legislation to prevent anyone but law enforcers from carrying concealed firearms, that alone would be frightening enough. See my signature line...
by Skiprr
Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:50 pm
Forum: Federal - 2008
Topic: Obama Campaign Threatens Stations Airing NRA Ads
Replies: 27
Views: 2628

Re: Obama Campaign Threatens Stations Airing NRA Ads

I'll excerpt from my original post:
Brooks Jackson, who authored the FactCheck.org piece with D'Angelo Gore, was extremely upset about the NRA ads. Jackson told FOX News: "They are lying. This is what they do. This is how they make their money. Do these people have no shame? They are just making this up. I just wish that they would tell the truth." He said that their ads were "one of the worst examples of lying" that he had "ever seen." (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,427347,00.html, Fox News online article, September 24)
It would be difficult for me not to interpret that bit as an emotional, distinctly biased rant. Brooks Jackson and FactCheck.org are not an objective fact source.
by Skiprr
Sun Sep 28, 2008 11:15 am
Forum: Federal - 2008
Topic: Obama Campaign Threatens Stations Airing NRA Ads
Replies: 27
Views: 2628

Obama Campaign Threatens Stations Airing NRA Ads

In a case of, "I like the Constitution better if I can interpret it the way I choose to," Obama Campaign General Counsel, Robert Bauer, is coming within rock-throwing distance of dismissing the First Amendment while trying to prevent the NRA from protecting the Second.

A whole flurry of stuff happened during the past several days about this. Here's the nutshell description, with linkies:

The NRA prepared and purchased TV and radio spots highlighting Obama's record with respect to firearms.

The Washington Post (depending partialy upon FactCheck.org) published an unfavorable "analysis" of the NRA's veracity in those ads, giving them "three out of four Pinocchios." (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-tr ... _in_e.html)

CNN chimed in and, while slightly toned down from the Washington Post piece, adjudged the NRA ads "misleading." (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/20 ... ore_20006)

Baurer, Obama's General Counsel, pounced and sent threatening letters dated September 23 to news agencies in Pennsylvania and Ohio calling the NRA ads "false, misleading, and deceptive" and pointing to the Washington Post article as his sole evidence. (http://www.nraila.org/media/PDFs/ObamaLetterNRAAd.pdf, PDF file) Messages in his short letter include: "For the sake of both FCC licensing and the public interest, your station should refuse to continue to air this advertisement" [1973 case law cited]; "Because you need not air this advertisement, your station bears responsibility for its content when you do grant access" [1950 case law cited]; "Failure to prevent the airing of 'false and misleading advertising' may be 'probative of an underlying abdication of licensee responsibility" [1978 case law cited]. Friendly sounding letter, no?

The NRA responded to the Washington Post with a pretty conclusive rebuttal of the facts and their sources. (http://www.nraila.org/media/PDFs/wp_res ... amaads.pdf, PDF file)

NRA-ILA published information that shows FactCheck.org is not as objective and thorough as many would think. (http://www.nraila.org/News/Read/NewsRel ... x?ID=11574, online article)

The NRA Counsel sent a brief memo to the news agencies that had received Baurer's threatening letter. Conversational and non-threatening in tone, the memo included the NRA's factual response to the Washington Post, and an article disclosing the bias of FactCheck.org. (http://www.nraila.org/media/PDFs/nra_me ... amaads.pdf, PDF file)

Brooks Jackson, who authored the FactCheck.org piece with D'Angelo Gore, was extremely upset about the NRA ads. Jackson told FOX News: "They are lying. This is what they do. This is how they make their money. Do these people have no shame? They are just making this up. I just wish that they would tell the truth." He said that their ads were "one of the worst examples of lying" that he had "ever seen." (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,427347,00.html, Fox News online article, September 24)

Obama campaign representative Bill Burton told FOX News that "These ads are just complete crap." When Megyn Kelly asked "Has [Obama] ever supported a ban on handguns? ... And he never has?" Burton said flatly "no." He added that "All the points in these ads are just flatly false." (Ibid; read that whole Fox News article by John Lott; some good stuff.)

The Thursday, September 25 NRA-ILA post about the situation: http://www.nraila.org/News/Read/NewsRel ... x?ID=11588

The Friday, September 26 lead article about it titled "Campaign and DNC Launch Assault On First Amendment": http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Feder ... px?id=4192

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