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K.Mooneyham wrote:I'm with those who want to just get this OC law on the books. It can always be "cleaned up" later if it turns out that there are problems or issues with how things are going.

Consider how much "cleaning up" we have done on concealed carry. It is still a work in progress after 20 years.

Baby steps for open carry are better than killing the bill. If there is a number of instances where open carriers are stopped for no reason, it will be addressed in due time.

juno106 wrote: ...

I guess that is where we differ: whether the Senators knew of the differences between the Dutton and Huffines amendments andor wanted HB910 to go back to the House. I believe no. You believe yes, and the stripping of Dutton and differing wording of the Huffines amendment was the vehicle with which to do that.

jmra wrote:Of course the amendment would not have passed if Huffines would have been smart enough to use the correct wording because they knew it would then not have gone back to the house

I think Sen Huffines and his staff are smart enough to understand the concept of cut and paste. I would also suspect that fellow Senators might have mentioned the danger he was causing by using his own words. Let's just assume that he accidentally used his own language and didn't think about it at the time, then I would say he is too incompetent to be submitting an amendment like this in the 11th hour. It was unnecessary, and this is the fallout.

juno106 wrote:You mean like the virtually identical Huffines amendment in the Senate, which did pass?

Please explain why you believe the Huffines amendment passed the full Senate, and the Dutton amendment would have failed the full Senate.

I'd sincerely like to know this.

Say what you want about Huffman removing the Dutton amendment. Huffines knowingly threw a wrench in this bill when he reintroduced his version of the Dutton amendment. He didn't do it for you or me; he did it to get his name on the bill. He knew what he was doing, he knew there was a huge risk in doing it, and he was advised against doing it. He still did it anyway. He also should have known that it is better (even if the Dutton amendment is a good idea) to fix open carry down the road if law abiding citizens end up being harassed, profiled, or stopped for no reason by police. It is his fault that we are here right now biting our nails.