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chasfm11 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:57 am

BigGuy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 07, 2022 9:22 am

Ed4032 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 07, 2022 3:59 am To be a liberal you must be first either stupid or insane. That’s the only way that I am able to understand their actions.

I know several "progressive" folks who are neither stupid or insane. They were, unfortunately, indoctrinated with a false wold history and set of morals. They make rational decisions, based on the data available to them. Unfortunately that data set includes a racist, imperial America. A definition of racism that is basically racist = caucasian. They've been taught that the purpose of government is to insure their security, comfort, and prosperity. They have been taught by the adults and professional educators that equality is equality of outcome, not equality of opportunity.

While they are the current problem, the true cause of the disaster the country is becoming started back in the 1960s. The people destroying the country today are the product of those teachings. With better parents, teachers, and civil norms in their formative years, they would likey be very different people, and this would likely be a different country.

I have a different viewpoint. I agree that the education is horrible but would point to the number of Trump supporters that can be found in the high school ranks. There are more of them than are willing to make their feelings known in public. So the schools are not the only thing to blame. I submit that you cannot make the case for racism = caucasian and factor in the U.S. Civil War. Reduced to its lowest terms, it was whites fighting whites to free blacks. Regardless of what the history teacher says, there is no way that the Civil War was whites versus blacks with the blacks winning. To assume universal white racism, this is the only way that it could have been.

I submit that the base problem is the denial of reality. Some people do it because the government says so. Some people deny reality because they are lazy and don't that burden themselves with having to think. The Liberal propaganda is pervasive and unending. And yet there are wide swaths of the country that have managed to overcome it. I've listened to a lot of the "cross over" Liberals who have been interviewed on Fox News. They all came to the thinking that they have today when they stopped denying reality. Those who tout their intelligence and remain die-hard Liberal/Progressives are either power hungry and use their beliefs to further their power aims or they work overtime at denying reality. You cannot have gone through the Covid debacle with any rational thinking and conclude that the Liberals in charge of were 100% correct. Once you accept that any part of it was distorted, it is a short walk to accept that almost all of it was distorted.

Ed4032 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 07, 2022 3:59 am To be a liberal you must be first either stupid or insane. That’s the only way that I am able to understand their actions.

Paladin wrote: ↑Sat Jun 04, 2022 5:33 pm I loved it when Michele Bachmann called them out for what they really are: Gangster government

Our Government is over run with Gangsters. The Clintons? Bill Clinton grew up in Hot Springs Arkansas, a town that is so proud of it's gangster roots they have a museum about it: Gangster Museum of America. I've been there. They have a mafia phone directory lists the "Clinton brothers" number. Bill and Roger learned the ropes early.

Ex-FBI official: Clintons are a ‘crime family’

It's common knowledge that Joe Kennedy was a bootlegger, but what is less well advertised is that Joe Kennedy used Al Capone as a major supplier of moonshine from Hot Springs. The mafia in Hot Springs bottled up "clear" moonshine in spring-water bottles and shipped them East to Joe Kennedy. Joe worked with bloodthirsty Capone to make his money.

Speaking of Massachusetts, It's well known that Whitey Bulger was a criminal kingpin in Boston who worked closely with the FBI, but Whitey's brother William Bulger was simultaneously the president of the Massachusetts Senate.

There is a common pattern (Hot Springs, Chicago, Boston, etc) of organized crime using their money to purchase local authorities or even political office directly (Mayor, police force, even the fire department in Hot Springs).