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seeker_two wrote:

CWOOD wrote:

seeker_two wrote:Cut the CHL application fee by 75% for all persons.....

Actually, over time the fees are not that bad now.

The initial $140 was a bit steep for me at the time, but that only works out to $35 per year

Renewals at half price, $70 for five years is only $14 per year.

My next renewal will only be $7 per year. I guess that tells you something about me.

After that Initial fee, it is not too bad really.

Good for you....but for some people, $140 is real money. And I don't believe that someone should be denied a Constitutional right just because they can't cut another check to Austin (who spends our taxes SO well..... )

Irony and sarcasm will get you far here!

seamusTX wrote:

stevie_d_64 wrote:Creating law where some classes of citizens are allowed to carry in situations where others of equal qualifications and status are not, just because of a uniform, in this case, is something I do not agree with...

I agree. Someone who is in the military has no particular training in carrying a weapon in the civilian environment. A person who is "active duty military" could be a communications technician or medical personnel who hasn't touched a weapon since basic training.

When the CHL was first debated, people were afraid that CHL holders would "go off" in certain situations, so we got all the prohibited places in 46.035. I think the 12-year history of CHL holders now shows that they are unnecessary. (Does anyone honestly think a CHL holder is going to try to spring a prisoner from jail?)

- Jim

Well not to toot my own horn...

When I was in the fleet...I out shot everyone on the ship, and became the "long gun" on board at that time...Made for interesting high-cover watches in ports where we might not have been looked upon with a great amount of affection...

I was not a Gunners Mate, nor someone who had been given special training...I just had a good knack for shooting accurately, and had good sense...

That has pretty much changed now...

But I was just a radar operator...Thats all...

Maybe being from Texas had something to do with it???

Roger Howard wrote:In 2009 I would like to see active duty military allowed to carry anywhere a LEO can carry. ( I would like this to apply to all chl'ers but I think it would be easier to get the first bill passed with military personnel)

Of course I think schools should not be off limits to CHL's

We need to keep working on the things that didn't get passed this year.

I respectfully disagree...

When an "active duty" person is acting in that capacity, they are only armed when acting under the civilian authority...Therefore, if they are "not" actively under orders and performing some task by their chain of command, and while armed, they have no status or authority greater than those of us in this forum...

There is no "baby steps" needing to be taken here to get "us" to be able to carry anywhere Law Enforcement is allowed to carry in this state...
We are either going to get legislation filed, debated, passed and signed into law, or we are not...

Remember the whole concept of the CHL in this state and others was to simply allow the law-abiding public with no felonious criminal history to carry a firearm for self-defensive purposes...This was a big step for some states to wrap around this idea...

In addition to that it is a personal decision that not all citizens take, which is extremely apparent in the percentages of licensees in each state that has a permitting system...

All of this almost goes unsaid...Sorry if I am preaching to the choir...

Creating law where some classes of citizens are allowed to carry in situations where others of equal qualifications and status are not, just because of a uniform, in this case, is something I do not agree with...And its not that I am jealous, or in need of equal consideration because I "used" to be in that boat...

I just do not believe it is necessary...

KBCraig wrote:Which leads us to:

- Dissolve the BATF.

I know just how to do that.

Somehow I knew that was what you were going to say...Yep, that might solve a few things, you betcha!

I still like the tweeks Tom is talking about...A couple have been pet peeves of mine for many years...But I believe we will eventually get to a point (hopefully) where most of this becomes a non-issue...But understand the other side of this equation is not going to just go away...