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philip964 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:47 pm https://www.rutherford.org/publications ... emism_list

Your probably already on a FBI extremism list.

I will be very insulted if I find out I am not on at least a couple of their extremism lists.

mayor wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 1:17 pm The Government had best reign in the government or WE THE PEOPLE will have to.

I am disappointed to say that my best guesstimate right now says we will be actively reigning in the government by January 31, 2025. I am afraid that too many good men and not enough bad ones will be feeding the Tree of Liberty. But I have faith that the good guys will win and preserve the country for a few more decades until the next group of tyrants try to take our freedoms.

Paladin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:33 pmThis sounds like a start in the right direction: Rand Paul: FBI Will only Be Reformed if We Remove and Replace Top 10% of the Agency

I think 10% is a very optimistic estimate. I favor closer to the top 25% and think I may still be too optimistic.

Although I did read about another plan to create a new department, they wanted to call it the Federal Justice Bureau.

I believe that we have confused things with the current setup and violated the principle of three separate branches of government. My proposal for reform is to remove all courts from the DOJ and place them directly under the SCOTUS in a US Court Department (however you want to name it). This is to get all courts out of the executive branch and back into a judicial branch.

The legal staff used for prosecuting crimes and for interpreting laws to assist other governmental bodies stays in the DOJ and is headed by the Attorney General. All they do is legal work. This is to avoid the contamination of thought between police and prosecutors responding to one boss.

All police functions should be removed from ALL agencies and then concentrated in a single new US Department of Law Enforcement. One department to do all police work, no matter what the federal crime. This is to get the police uniform in their work and to remove any corruption of regulations caused by agencies trying to enforce their own laws. Regulatory agencies (a constitutional question in itself) should not be authorized to decide which regulation to investigate violations of or what prosecutions are made. While the separation of police and prosecutors is not a constitutional thing, it seems to work a lot better at local levels than the federal level of them being under the same boss.

The other thing we need to do is make sure that no violation of the law is enforced through civil action. If anyone breaks the law and the government is trying to enforce it, it is a criminal act and the criminal rights guaranteed by the Constitution should be active and applied.

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Sun Aug 28, 2022 5:45 pmIt is funny how things have changed since this forum began. We went from thinking law enforcement where somehow worth supporting, to realizing they are all jack booted Nazi's. What changed? Them? Or did we all wake up?

If it helps, I am a retired cop and still support law enforcement in general. I cannot support a lot of what I see going on these days, and I know it would never have been acceptable when I was active (retired in 2009). So yeah, law enforcement has changed.

I have not been a big fan of the FBI since at least the mid 1980's though, so that has just become more public. It seems like they have gotten worse about taking political sides, but that was because under J. Edgar they blackmailed everyone that he thought might be useful to him. Looking at it now in hindsight, they were just as politically motivated then too. The difference seems to have been that the sides they took were so overwhelmingly supported by the US public that it did not seem like a political hit job (anti-communism and anti-civil rights jump to my mind).

I have searched carefully for extremism in my household. I did not find any signs of anyone even thinking about supporting Antifa or BLM.