Oldgringo wrote:Pawpaw wrote:cb1000rider wrote:Is anyone arguing that people convicted of domestic abuse (ie, commonly called "criminals" on this forum) should retain their 2nd amendment rights?
I will argue that it's not right. Why is "domestic abuse" the only misdemeanor that will cost you your 2nd amendment rights? If it's that serious a crime, it should be a felony.
Do you have any idea how easy it is to be convicted of domestic abuse? All that is necessary is for the female to call it into 911. The police will show up and tell you that they are required by law to take someone to jail and you're elected. Then you will have the opportunity to post bail. Remember, the person who put you there now has control of all of your money so good luck. After several months drag by, you will finally get your day in court. She says you did & you say you didn't. There are no bruises or other evidence, but that doesn't matter. The judge will still pronounce you guilty. Congratulations. You have now lost the right to own a gun and you didn't do anything.
I have seen it, personally, with a close family member. I was sitting in the courtroom when "judgement" was passed on a purely "he said - she said". The guy loses.
My thoughts exactly - "he said, she said". Sounds similar to a sexual harassment allegation - the accused is guilty until proven innocent.
with the above completely but the law is the law. Maybe a major gun rights organization should look at getting the law changed so natural rights are not effected by an allegation that takes almost nothing to prove a crime was committed. Until then I think those convicted for domestic violence should lose their guns as the law states.