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by oljames3
Wed Jan 11, 2023 2:59 pm
Forum: Self-Defense Reports
Topic: Houston: Customer Kills Robber
Replies: 42
Views: 92168

Re: Houston: Customer Kills Robber

Use of force expert, attorney Andrew Branca, discusses this incident, in depth, on Legal Insurrection:
https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/01/h ... execution/
by oljames3
Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:36 pm
Forum: Self-Defense Reports
Topic: Houston: Customer Kills Robber
Replies: 42
Views: 92168

Re: Houston: Customer Kills Robber

Beiruty wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 4:34 pm
PriestTheRunner wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:02 am
Beiruty wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:15 am This case raised few more questions.
First, it happened in Texas.
We know, the Texas law justifies the use of deadly force in those cases.
Second, there is no higher force than deadly force.
Add to that, If I recall correctly, and please prove me wrong if otherwise, the law does not limit the actor on what deadly force or the level of force, or in this case how many rounds to shoot or when to shoot or not shoot.

This is why in Texas such case could or could not be prosecuted even if it looks "ugly"
He is going to be prosecuted based on the length of time between the 3rd, then the 4th 5th and 6th shots, and then the final shot.
You shoot until the threat is stopped. The threat stopped and he walked over and shot him in the back of the head.
Have you guys seen the full video?...... Its going to be a nasty court case that he will most likely lose.

Edit to add: I'm not saying what he did wasn't just or expedient, and I'm not saying he wasn't "in the right". I'm saying the the location and DA is going to chase this hard. He may get off on a lack of medical training in whether the perp was conscious or still a threat, and if a reasonable person would consider the perp still a threat based on the speed of the encounter.

That last shot may be his downfall.
I watched the longer video. "Shoot until the threat is stopped" We all agree, that is part of the principal of not using excessive force. And it is on the tip of the tongue of any firearms instructor.

However, is it stated in any section of law in Texas?
The answer to your question. "is it in any section of law in Texas?", is Texas Penal Code 9.32(a)(2) which requires that the use of deadly force be "immediately necessary."
Sec. 9.32. DEADLY FORCE IN DEFENSE OF PERSON. (a) A person is justified in using deadly force against another:

(1) if the actor would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.31; and

(2) when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:
We must all know the law of self defense. https://lawofselfdefense.com/beginjourney/
by oljames3
Sun Jan 08, 2023 3:30 pm
Forum: Self-Defense Reports
Topic: Houston: Customer Kills Robber
Replies: 42
Views: 92168

Re: Houston: Customer Kills Robber

Attorney Andre Branca and attorney Steve Gosney review this incident at 3pm Central.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLDOxLoFUXg
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Taqueria Throwdown! Lawful or Execution?
This past Thursday night, Jan. 5, 2023, an armed and masked armed robber was plying his trade in Ranchito #4 Taqueria in Houston TX, when one of the customers decided to express his objections--in the form of nine rounds fired into the robber, unsurprisingly with fatal results. The shooter fled the scene and has not yet been identified, although authorities are looking--though they state that they have not yet decided whether to charge the shooter.

Although the initial shots fired by the shooter appear to be legally justified as defense of self, defense of others, and (uniquely under Texas law) perhaps even defense of property, the last shot fired looks more difficult to justify. At the moment that ninth shot was fired the robber was apparently unconscious on the floor and had been disarmed of the only weapon he was known to possess, when the shooter fired one last shot, apparently into the robber's head.

Fortunately for all of us, this event was captured on video, and today I conduct legal analysis and commentary on this video, in the context of Texas use-of-force law--and with special guest Attorney Steve Gosney! Join us LIVE at 4 PM ET TODAY, on the Law of Self Defense YouTube channel by clicking the image or link below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLDOxLoFUXg
by oljames3
Sun Jan 08, 2023 3:26 pm
Forum: Self-Defense Reports
Topic: Houston: Customer Kills Robber
Replies: 42
Views: 92168

Re: Houston: Customer Kills Robber

John Correia, Active Self Protection reviews this incident.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAx9srqTFIs
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