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So if HB910 doesn't pass the Senate, the House should turn around and pass SB17 & 11 as written, and watch Stickland squirm.

I'm thinking someone that decides to open carry because they don't think the police will be asking them if they have a license would be few and far between. The police would in most cases know if the person was licensed by the way they act. The CHL person wouldn't be nervous or looked worried at all. Now the non-licensed person would more than likely look like they were up to something. Body language would do them in. Wouldn't be worth the chance for a criminal or non-criminal to open carry without a CHL. Wouldn't want to lose my gun either let alone pay fines and do the jail time.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

Salty1 wrote:If I was stopped for OC'ing I would be very respectful to the officer and not have an attitude towards them and show them the requested identification then go on my way. The best thing we could do if faced with that situation is to be a good ambassador for the entire CHL program. I believe that most officers if treated respectfully will change their behavior after a few positive encounters.

IMO to get respect we have to show respect in a professional manor, remember this is going to be new for all of the LEO's out there as well. There will be a learning curve for the LEO's to become comfortable with the fact that guns are being carried openly which conflicts with their previous training.

It will be beneficial to all Texas gun owners if Salty1's advice is taken to heart. This is how we make open-carry as successful has concealed-carry has been for 20 years.

Chas.

I wish you had a "Like Button" because I really like this. Common sense goes a long way.

That title makes it sound like that was the only reason for the amendment. I'm not sure that's the case. It's just one of many good reasons to have it in the bill.

I'm wondering how long the Senate will sit on it.

Ruark wrote:

locke_n_load wrote:Sec. 411.2049. CERTAIN INVESTIGATORY STOPS AND INQUIRIES
7 PROHIBITED. A peace officer may not make an investigatory stop
8 or other temporary detention to inquire as to whether a person
9 possesses a handgun license solely because the person is
10 carrying a partially or wholly visible handgun carried in a
11 shoulder or belt holster.

All riiiiiiight!!!! That was a major open carry issue for me, that some lard-assed cop is going to wobble up to me... "justaminnit here, son, step over here for a second...."

I won't OC all the time, but when I do, I'm going to carry a copy of this code with me.

I'm betting it will happen anyway in the beginning. Might want to carry a copy of the bill to show just in case. I would cooperate with the officer first and then hand him a copy.

jmra wrote:

stash wrote:I read an article in the Christian Science Monitor this morning re the Texas house passage of Licensed OC. Among other things, the article indicated that the legislature opted to require a special open-carry permit for which owners would have to apply. I don't recall seeing anything about a special open carry permit in SB17 or HB910 or amendments put forth on Fri. Did I miss something or what?

No. The current CHL is the only requirement. That same misinformation was in a Yahoo article. Don't know where it's coming from.

Maybe they are thinking about the amendment that wanted open carry to require some kind of badge. It was tabled, thank goodness.

Duplicate post. It won't let me delete it. Guess I waited too long.

Scenario: You walk into a store that has 30.06 posted but for whatever reason you didn't see it. First of all if you are concealed carrying what are the odds someone will know. If you're open carrying and someone tells you that it's not allowed you just leave. The only way it would be a problem is if you don't leave and they call the police, or the police were in the store and saw you. If you leave and they call the police you'll more than likely be long gone by the time they get there. The last time I checked store owners can't issue tickets. I seriously doubt this is going to be a common occurrence. I've never been asked if I was carrying while in any business. I usually frequent the same businesses so know if they're posted or not. If it's a place I've never been before I make sure to look. I feel this amendment basically protects the CHL from being arrested and losing their license due to inadvertent or accidentally entering a posted premises.

+one

Sold American!

This guys talking to me.

This Stickland is mental I think. He's something else that I won't mention here.

They could stick around for the party afterward.

Are some of the Reps. babies or what? They don't get their way so they throw fits and leave. At least they don't get to take the ball with them.