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MaduroBU wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:22 pmI will repeat that a searchable NICS list of prohibited buyers and real penalties if you're caught selling a gun to someone on that list would fix the vast majority of the issues here. It formally closes the "gun show loophole" without setting the NICS up to monitor sales and has no way of being turned into a registration scheme (which is what the Democrats actually want but won't admit to).

I agree with this idea. We would need to address privacy issues, of course. Here's one idea off the top of my head. I, as a potential buyer, can have the NICS system issue me a Unique ID number / code, that is not my DL#, SSN, etc. I then give that code to the private seller, and they see my name and that I'm not prohibited from buying, but no other personal info. At the sale, I show my ID to match the name, and we're all good. The requirement would be to use this system for all private sales where the buyer does not have an LTC, and would take effect 6 months after the system was up and running. First offense for not using it as a seller has to be a Class C misdemeanor, at most, to address potential innocent mistakes / ignorance.

And we DO NOT give on this or anything else for free, like we did with the "bump stock" ban. I'd propose National Reciprocity with minimum guaranteed carry rights, in exchange. States could go beyond those minimum rights, but must at least allow carry in public spaces, vehicles, etc.

Roll this all into one bill and let the Dems show just how much they care about the "gun show loophole".

MaduroBU wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:18 am The in the business of selling guns standard is reasonable, except that gun shows all have an ATF presence for running NICS checks. I'm not a big participant in gun shows, but my understanding is that selling off of your table with no NICS check in Texas essentially does not happen.

If you are in the business of selling forearms, then presumably you also file a schedule C and deduct regular and ordinary expenses for income tax purposes. I'd think that anyone who doesn't avail themselves of these tax advantages is not really "in the business" of selling guns. That would definitely be one indicator at least.

And I wonder whether "Beto" realizes that sticks, knives, etc., have all been used as "weapons of war" at one time or another. Does he want to ban those as well? More importantly, does he even understand that the 2nd Amendment is in place to ensure that the populace will have the means to carry out their obligation to overthrow a tyrannical government? How exactly can that happen if the populace has no access to anything that could be used as a "weapon of war"?