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by Lynyrd
Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:51 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Ever Shoot with No Ear Protection for Training?
Replies: 34
Views: 7165

Re: Ever Shoot with No Ear Protection for Training?

cyphur wrote:
Lynyrd wrote:
cyphur wrote:
Lynyrd wrote: There is something you are not factoring in, and cannot train for. Namely, adrenaline. Don't sacrifice you hearing unnecessarily. Adrenaline will keep you from even noticing the sound.
I am going to disagree to an extent about adrenaline. Enter a two-way kill house using simunitions. You'll get close - it is a legit two-way non-lethal shooting range. It also hurts like heck.

You can also combine high intensity physical exercise on an action range to simulate physical exertion and the adrenaline that accompanies it.

The degree of fight or flight is tough to replicate but the kill house gets awfully close.
Okay, I'll concede that you can somewhat train for it. But do you agree that adrenaline, and maybe fear, more or less make you ignore the sounds?
Yes, adrenaline will drown out the sound. If anything that makes it more dangerous.

My point for training for adrenaline is more along the lines of smoothing out motions, avoiding jerks, handling a weapon under stress, etc.
I agree with your points. But back to the OP's question, wear hearing protection. I am functionally deaf. I read lips better than I hear. Wear ear protection. Just my 2 cents.
by Lynyrd
Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:38 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Ever Shoot with No Ear Protection for Training?
Replies: 34
Views: 7165

Re: Ever Shoot with No Ear Protection for Training?

cyphur wrote:
Lynyrd wrote: There is something you are not factoring in, and cannot train for. Namely, adrenaline. Don't sacrifice you hearing unnecessarily. Adrenaline will keep you from even noticing the sound.
I am going to disagree to an extent about adrenaline. Enter a two-way kill house using simunitions. You'll get close - it is a legit two-way non-lethal shooting range. It also hurts like heck.

You can also combine high intensity physical exercise on an action range to simulate physical exertion and the adrenaline that accompanies it.

The degree of fight or flight is tough to replicate but the kill house gets awfully close.
Okay, I'll concede that you can somewhat train for it. But do you agree that adrenaline, and maybe fear, more or less make you ignore the sounds?
by Lynyrd
Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:29 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Ever Shoot with No Ear Protection for Training?
Replies: 34
Views: 7165

Re: Ever Shoot with No Ear Protection for Training?

thatguyoverthere wrote:I'm sure most of us routinely use ear protection when we are shooting for practice or training or whatever similar activity.

However, if we ever have to fire our weapon in a real-life defense situation, we are almost certainly NOT going to have ear protection on. If you haven't noticed, gunfire is pretty loud, especially indoors.

Have you ever considered that if you do have to fire your gun in a defensive situation (without ear protection) there will be an extremely loud, extremely violent explosion occur just about two feet from your face? You might be startled enough by that sudden, loud explosion that you may be momentarily disoriented because this in not what you are accustomed to in all your practice shooting. That (possibly very brief) disorientation might be a real problem if you need to fire follow-up shot(s), especially considering someone might be shooting back at you.

That brings up the question: do you ever practice/train - even for just one or two shots - with NO ear protection, just so it might help you be more familiar with the sound of full volume gunshots, in order to possibly be better prepared for a real-life defensive shooting event?
There is something you are not factoring in, and cannot train for. Namely, adrenaline. Don't sacrifice you hearing unnecessarily. Adrenaline will keep you from even noticing the sound.

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