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by Tex1961
Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:22 pm
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: Time to modernize qual - allow Red Dots
Replies: 29
Views: 22829

Re: Time to modernize qual - allow Red Dots

AF-Odin wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:02 pm Tex1961,
Yep, been there and seen that. Had more than one that tried to load the rounds in the mag backwards, one that upon the command "fire" would close her eyes and turn her head sideways (she lasted two rounds before I removed her). We keep telling them that this is NOT a learn to shoot class, that the shooting portion is a demonstration of proficiency (and safety) with a firearm. If they want to learn to shoot, we offer that class as well as one that allows beginners to shoot four or five different handguns, starting with a .22 (Glock 44) for 50 rounds, then a S&W .380EZ for 10 rounds, then a Glock 19 for 10 rounds, and if desired A S&W 4" barrel .38 for 10 rounds. Other options include a Ruger LCR in .38 and a Glock 26. Many students don't want this course, because it is more expensive than the LTC as I am providing the firearms and ammo, but if they took it, they would have a better idea of what firearm would best suit them and have a better chance of passing the LTC demonstration of proficiency.
LOL. I know...

My favorites so far..
Older gentlemen who's 1911 was probably born the same year taking head shots until my RSO stopped him.
Multiple students loading bullets in backwards
Full Mag dumps when they were supposed to be firing 1 at a time
And my best question so far... So after I get my LTC I can carry on the plane.... :banghead:

Like you I send out a very detailed email before class and in Bold, red flashing neon letters explain that this is a proficiency class, NOT a training class.. But they don't read or comprehend apparently... Oh well... Now I see why the state gives them 3 chances....
by Tex1961
Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:29 pm
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: Time to modernize qual - allow Red Dots
Replies: 29
Views: 22829

Re: Time to modernize qual - allow Red Dots

AF-Odin wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:06 pm Well, they have already reduced the caliber requirement for the LTC so why not allow any firearm that could be carried. With the ammo shortage, i am seeing more and more students shoot the "Demonstration of Proficiency" with a .22. So far, have not had a single student shooting a .22 NOT qualify. The ones that scare me are not the ones who show up with a Glock/SIG/S&W/Kimber/Canik with a laser or RDS, but the student that shows up with the Hi-Point and a bent front sight.
I kid you not. Had a lady show up with a borrowed Glock and 50 rounds of loose ammunition in a plastic Walmart bag. All thrown in the bottom. I had to ask her to leave the range when she couldn’t figure out how to release the magazine and then didn’t know how to load the rounds into it.
by Tex1961
Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:32 pm
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: Time to modernize qual - allow Red Dots
Replies: 29
Views: 22829

Re: Time to modernize qual - allow Red Dots

My opinion is no... at least not yet. Too many students barely have enough skills as it is to pass the quals.. I think anyone who wants to handle a firearm should start out with the basic fundamentals of sight management first.

But I will allow a caveat.. Allow an exception for those that are optically challenged. There could me a medical release form from an optometrist that you could submit....

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