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Didn't work too well this session.Russell wrote:So does that mean in order to get some of the other bills passed, we just need to tell the legislators it's okay to add extras in for themselves? Free scholarship for campus carry? Yearly supply of ammo for open carry?
Springer filed HB3218 this session and I'm sure he'll file it again in 2015, if he's reelected. He's a freshman and the only person who would take it on. I suspect I know who the Senate "author" will be, but only time will tell.baldeagle wrote:At least we know who will sponsor a bill in the House and in the Senate for next session. And we have the ammo to make it stick. So there's some value there even though it won't happen this session.
While it could be added, it would face a point-of-order just like the one that was asserted in the House. However, based upon the heated debate on the floor yesterday, it would stand a better chance now, but we still have Lon Burnam and other rabid anit-gunners who could and I believe would assert a point-of-order against any pro-gun amendment.RHenriksen wrote:From what I understand of Charles' recent posts on the matter, modifying the bill to include all citizens isn't an available option by the rules they work under. But I'd love to be proven wrong!
No, it cannot be done.TrueFlog wrote:Any chance the conference committee can agree to expand the amendment to cover all CHL'ers - not just elected officials?Charles L. Cotton wrote:It goes back to the House where it will either concur in the Senate amendment(s) or not. If not, a conference committee can be established to see if an agreement can be reached. If a committee agreement is reached, the agreement will be put to an up or down vote in the Senate and House. No amendments can be made during this up or down vote.TrueFlog wrote:So does this have to go back to the House for them to approve the amendment? Or does it go straight to the Gov.?
Also, regarding the vote on the amendment, you can view it at http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/BillLook ... Bill=HB508" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. Currently, the site has not been updated with the details of the vote, but once it has, you can see who voted and how.
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It goes back to the House where it will either concur in the Senate amendment(s) or not. If not, a conference committee can be established to see if an agreement can be reached. If a committee agreement is reached, the agreement will be put to an up or down vote in the Senate and House. No amendments can be made during this up or down vote.TrueFlog wrote:So does this have to go back to the House for them to approve the amendment? Or does it go straight to the Gov.?
Also, regarding the vote on the amendment, you can view it at http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/BillLook ... Bill=HB508" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. Currently, the site has not been updated with the details of the vote, but once it has, you can see who voted and how.
The House couldn't have put this amendment on that bill without drawing a point-of-order that would have been sustained. The Senate rarely if every calls a point-of-order.mojo84 wrote:Thank you. It's still frustrating that what I consider a bad or unnecessary amendment can be added to an otherwise worthy bill. I would like to see it stand on its own just as the original bill does and go through the committee process. This may be impractical but I think it should have to go through the process in order to avoid the extraneous pork and mud that gets added using amendments.
mojo84 wrote:So, the amendment was added to the bill via a vote of the house or senate? If so, who voted to add the amendment to the bill in order to give certain people the right to carry where others are not allowed?baldeagle wrote:Amendments ARE voted on separately.mojo84 wrote:I wish amendments were not allowed without a separate vote for the amendment on a standalone basis.
baldeagleYour comment hear makes it sound like the amendment was added by one Senator and not that the house or senate voted to add the amendment to the bill. Help me understand.Senator Carona "amended" the bill by attaching a different bill to it. It passed, so now it becomes law, including the amendment, which grants elected officials special privileges they're not willing to give us. Since he's my Senator, he will definitely be hearing from me as soon as I have all the facts.