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Since last night I did come across one comment that Speer did not recommend their 185gr bullets due to the very high velocity.

I've had mine together for awhile now and still haven't fired it.

This the inquiry I sent and answer received from Hornady tech support about their bullets:

All three of these bullets should perform between 700fps and 1500fps.

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Subject: Technical Inquiries

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Subject: Technical Inquiries

re: .451 handgun bullets

Do have ideal velocity paramaters or velocity limits on your .451
diameter bullets? Specifically, regarding use in .460 Rowland where
185gr might reach 1550, 200gr might reach 1450, and 230gr might reach
1350.

As part of the same answer, are there any of your offerings that you
would not recommend?

During my intensive reading on the .460, I did read about one brand of JHP that was not suitable, but it wasn't the XTP.

ghostrider wrote:>I've always checked back periodically to Clark's site, but I never wanted to give up one of
>my Springfields or my Kimber to use for the .460.

'give up' as in having the frame machined for a ramped barrel, or something else?

Give up as in my Springfield loaded 5" stainless has over $400 of work done by Actions by T that I won't mess with. My Champion is one that they no longer offer the kit for and it runs too good as it is. I can't see installing one on my Kimber Eclipse Pro II. And if a frame is going to take a beating, better a <$500 Taurus than a more expensive model.

> Plus, I would probably buy at least 100rds of each of the Georgia Arms loads

Corbon is now making 3 different loads in 460 Rowland now too.

Actually, Corbon offers 4 loadings. A 255gr @ 1100fps, a 230 JHP @ 1250fps, a 230 FMJ @ 1100fps, and the 185 JHP @ 1425fps.

I wound up ordering 100 of the 1400fps load and 50 of the 1550fps load from Georgia Arms. I may not shoot large quantities of the hot load. Apparently Corbon consulted with Wilson as far as load development. Wilson chose not to use a compensator, which is the only thing that controls recoil and lockup on the Clark conversion. I guess only time will tell if Wilson's .460 will stand the torture. Corbon's 185gr load is on par with Georgia Arms milder load. Corbon offers two 230gr loads while Georgia Arms discontinued all 230gr loadings due to fear of bullet setback. I may definitely try Corbon's 255gr.

> shooting 185gr Nosler JHP at 1550fps might not be an ideal carry gun.

agreed. I built mine for hunting. It is said that you can fire regular .45ACP rounds in it (though they have to be hot to cycle that 24lb recoil spring) and I have done it, but I think it stretches the brass a bit, so I don't do that. If I want ligher loads, I load 45ACP +P or 45 Super data in the 460 Rowland brass.

I know they say you can shoot ACP in it, but the extractor is the only thing that would be holding the case. I doubt that a straight wall case stretches that much, but it might. I may never get to go hunting, but I've wanted one of these since Johnny's last TV show was on the the Men's Channel. It's even questionable now how much I can stand to shoot it. My hands still ache from just trying to assemble it with that 24# spring.

But the kit is installed and the ammo arrived today. I can't put it off too much longer.

I'm real close to making a decision on getting the kit, but I've been wanting one since Johnny Rowlands' Guns & Gears show was on the Men's Channel.

I've always checked back periodically to Clark's site, but I never wanted to give up one of my Springfields or my Kimber to use for the .460. The other day, I noticed that they have added the Taurus PT1911 to their short list of 1911's acceptable for the conversion. I just happen to have two blued and one stainless PT1911's, so using one of the blued ones means I don't have to invest in another 1911 for the conversion.

I don't know how much a regular FFL would pay for the kit, but my C&R discount with Brownell's gives it to me for $255, or $40 less than buying direct from Clark.

I can get Starline brass from Graf & Sons for $109.20/500. Plus, I would probably buy at least 100rds of each of the Georgia Arms loads (185gr JHP at 1400, 185gr JHP at 1550) to get me started. Even though I already have .45acp dies, I would probably buy another set so I could leave the toolhead set up for my 550B.

Can you tell I've considered this? The only thing left is to pull the trigger. Timing would have been perfect a few years ago. Now that I'm older, I find myself reverting to less powerful rounds as I just don't enjoy blasting as much as I used to.

While the liabilities of certain equipment/caliber choices has been beaten to death, I could see where a .460 Rowland 1911 with the compensator, shooting 185gr Nosler JHP at 1550fps might not be an ideal carry gun. So that relegates the Rowland idea back to just being a 'toy', which is why I'm struggling with making the purchase.