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O.F.Fascist wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 7:54 pm

ScottDLS wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 6:59 pm If people keep annoying LEO's and saying impolite things to them they are going to get shot or tazed. If a LEO tells you to dance an Irish Jig, your toes better darn well be tapping and you don't need to argue that you're Hispanic so you should be doing a Latin Rumba. Don't argue on the side of the road, DANCE!!!

I disagree, a citizen does not lose all rights and agency just because a police officer says so. There might be no good choices but the individual always has a choice.

FWIW Daniel Shaver's choice was to try and comply with all the dumb orders he was given and was still killed for it.

I would argue more bad than good happens when you refuse to do what you are told. You can go ahead and resist what you are told, but I will follow instructions, hope for the best, and see the officer in court later.

There is only a small percentage of LEO contacts that turn bad, but it is played over and over in the news so it appears to happen “all the time.” 10,000 traffic stops happen and 10 go bad so we play those ten over and over on the news until we can convince the shallow minded that when the police confronts you it turns into harassment, tazed, and an arrest. Bull Butter!

If you get stopped for speeding being red, yellow, black, and white the percentage of you getting a ticket is great and it has nothing to do with the color of your skin in 98% of those stops. Bad employees in every business.

Rather or not he was being harassed to me is not the issue. The issue is he was not pollite and did not follow the officers instruction. Had he done that he would have went home without confrontation. Then he could come back with his attorney. The street/side of the road is not the place to argue of your rights.