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by jmra
Sun Jun 14, 2015 7:35 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: Is requiring a permit to carry constitutional?
Replies: 28
Views: 14647

Re: Is requiring a permit to carry constitutional?

maintenanceguy wrote:
jmra wrote:
maintenanceguy wrote:
jmra wrote: Let's break that down. First, you don't have to pay $100 for a class. I see much cheaper classes advertised frequently and if you really keep your ear to the ground some organizations will even sponsor free or greatly reduced fees for classes. Very easy to find classes at $60. Add the other $150, your total is $210. That is less than 82¢ a week for the first 5 years and after that it's only 29¢ a week.
So the cost to protect yourself and your family the first 5 years comes out to about 12¢ a day. Calculate the daily cost over 10 years and you're down to less than 8¢ a day. If you can justify a stick of chewing gum every day, you can justify a CHL.
For me, the question of whether it's constitutional to charge a fee to "grant" a right was settled in 1966 when the Supreme Court ruled that it was unconstitutional to charge a poll tax to "grant" the right to vote.
Very well. Forgo the license and let us know how that works out for you.
It works fine in lots of places. States that allow open carry without a license include: Alaska, Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, South Dakota, Vermont, Kentucky, Virginia, Delaware, and Pennsylvania. There may be others.
It works fine if you live in one of those states. If not, it doesn't.
by jmra
Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:27 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: Is requiring a permit to carry constitutional?
Replies: 28
Views: 14647

Re: Is requiring a permit to carry constitutional?

nightmare69 wrote:
jmra wrote:
nightmare69 wrote:I personally believe that a state requiring a permit to carry is taking away a right and selling it back to you at a premier price. I know a few who cannot justify paying $100 for the class, $140 for the application fee, $10 for the fingerprints, to obtain a CHL.
Let's break that down. First, you don't have to pay $100 for a class. I see much cheaper classes advertised frequently and if you really keep your ear to the ground some organizations will even sponsor free or greatly reduced fees for classes. Very easy to find classes at $60. Add the other $150, your total is $210. That is less than 82¢ a week for the first 5 years and after that it's only 29¢ a week.
So the cost to protect yourself and your family the first 5 years comes out to about 12¢ a day. Calculate the daily cost over 10 years and you're down to less than 8¢ a day. If you can justify a stick of chewing gum every day, you can justify a CHL.
Cheapest class I've ever seen in my area was $85 for a short time at a new gun range. $100 is the norm for my AO.

It took 3 months for my G/F and I to save the money for her to go through the process. In fact, we just sent off her online app, paid the $155 for application, debit card fee, and fingerprints. For us, its expensive.
But yet you bought a sig when you could have bought a Glock for half what you paid for the sig. We all have priorities and we usually find a way to fund our priorities.
The very first link that popped up when I googled CHL classes in DFW was $59 or 2 for $100.
http://chltx.com/#2585
by jmra
Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:22 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: Is requiring a permit to carry constitutional?
Replies: 28
Views: 14647

Re: Is requiring a permit to carry constitutional?

maintenanceguy wrote:
jmra wrote: Let's break that down. First, you don't have to pay $100 for a class. I see much cheaper classes advertised frequently and if you really keep your ear to the ground some organizations will even sponsor free or greatly reduced fees for classes. Very easy to find classes at $60. Add the other $150, your total is $210. That is less than 82¢ a week for the first 5 years and after that it's only 29¢ a week.
So the cost to protect yourself and your family the first 5 years comes out to about 12¢ a day. Calculate the daily cost over 10 years and you're down to less than 8¢ a day. If you can justify a stick of chewing gum every day, you can justify a CHL.
For me, the question of whether it's constitutional to charge a fee to "grant" a right was settled in 1966 when the Supreme Court ruled that it was unconstitutional to charge a poll tax to "grant" the right to vote.
Very well. Forgo the license and let us know how that works out for you.
by jmra
Fri Jun 12, 2015 8:01 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: Is requiring a permit to carry constitutional?
Replies: 28
Views: 14647

Re: Is requiring a permit to carry constitutional?

nightmare69 wrote:I personally believe that a state requiring a permit to carry is taking away a right and selling it back to you at a premier price. I know a few who cannot justify paying $100 for the class, $140 for the application fee, $10 for the fingerprints, to obtain a CHL.
Let's break that down. First, you don't have to pay $100 for a class. I see much cheaper classes advertised frequently and if you really keep your ear to the ground some organizations will even sponsor free or greatly reduced fees for classes. Very easy to find classes at $60. Add the other $150, your total is $210. That is less than 82¢ a week for the first 5 years and after that it's only 29¢ a week.
So the cost to protect yourself and your family the first 5 years comes out to about 12¢ a day. Calculate the daily cost over 10 years and you're down to less than 8¢ a day. If you can justify a stick of chewing gum every day, you can justify a CHL.

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