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Charles L. Cotton wrote:I want to point out that the Senator who has had my bill for several weeks now has not filed it. I'm not happy.

Chas.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

RHenriksen wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote:That's not addressed in the proposed bill. That's an operational issue. In Harris County, people with a Frequent Courthouse Visitor badge simply holds that up and walks around the metal detectors. LEOs show their ID or badges, so I suspect Harris County would do the same for CHL's.

Chas.

Interesting... I'm curious (confused) if you mean Harris County courts would do the same *if* this bill is passed, or already might be doing so?

I'm guessing that, if the bill were to pass and CHLs could carry in courthouses, Harris County would maintain the current system and CHLs would show their license and walk around the metal detectors.

Chas.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:That's not addressed in the proposed bill. That's an operational issue. In Harris County, people with a Frequent Courthouse Visitor badge simply holds that up and walks around the metal detectors. LEOs show their ID or badges, so I suspect Harris County would do the same for CHL's.

Chas.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

gigag04 wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote:Not only is this an astounding statistic, it is far better than that achieved by Texas law enforcement.

Chas - as we have found in the other thread, this is definitely the case, but I'm curious if you have access to the actual numbers? The best we could in the thread get was not an apples to apples comparison and I think it was 0.3 for LE and 0.24 for CHLs - if you had better data I'd love to bookmark to share with fellow LE folks.

Also - great article, I'm interested to follow this legislative session.

I'm waiting on an Open Records Request to TCLEOSE to get updated numbers. When I do this, all my COP buddies and contacts fear I'm going after LEOs and that's not the case. I just want to be able to refute arguments that it's safe to let LEOs carry in _____________ but not CHLs.

The last time I made an ORR was in 2006 for the 2007 session and the LEO record was exactly half as good as CHLs. It also took 11 months to get a response to my ORR instead of the statutorily-required 10 days. When the data is in and the comparison is run, 'll post whether or not CHLs still have a better record, but I will not post the data. I do not want anyone to think I'm going after LEOs. That would cause a huge backlash in the legislature that could cost us dearly. If anyone wants the actual numbers, they will have to do their own ORR.

Chas.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:Carrying in bars will never pass, regardless how it's packaged or creative one is in coming up with sound bites. I'm not willing to risk the entire bill trying to convince Senators, Representatives and the general public that alcohol and guns do mix, in spite of what every responsible gun owner has said for a hundred years.

Come on guys; we're talking about a sea change in Texas law and you're upset because you won't be able to carry in a bar?

Chas.