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by jbenat
Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:03 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Gun Safety Rules
Replies: 140
Views: 97864

Re: Gun Safety Rules

joe817 wrote:
USA1 wrote:
jbenat wrote: I told the girls that young guys loved the smell of gun oil but they didn't buy it.
:smilelol5: thats a good one .
i don't know bout the young fellers , but i sure enjoy it :oops:
Tell 'em, if they want to attract boys, dab a little of Hoppe's #9 behind their ears. :smilelol5: :lol:
I gotta admit that Hoppe's is some good smelling stuff but I was recomending my favorite gun oil, Weapon Shield, which actually smells kinda cinnamony. :drool:
by jbenat
Sun Aug 02, 2009 7:34 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Gun Safety Rules
Replies: 140
Views: 97864

Re: Gun Safety Rules

Kevinf2349 wrote:Great grouping especially for the first time. Glad they had fun, now are they cleaning the guns? lol
Not just being a proud Grand dad but Ayla seems to have a natural ability to put holes close together. As far as cleaning guns it seems they, including my better half, have no interest in cleaning guns. It's a good thing I enjoy cleaning them.......sometimes. I told the girls that young guys loved the smell of gun oil but they didn't buy it.
joe817 wrote:I'll bet Grandad had almost as much fun teaching the young ones proper gun safety and shooting, as the girls did pulling the triggers! Well done Granpa! :tiphat:
Thanks. I knew I would enjoy it but didn't know how much fun it would actually be. I've given newbies my unofficial version of "pistol shooting 101" many times but these two were exceptional students. As previously stated, I spent quite a bit of time with them on the safety rules, grip, stance, operation of the slide, loading, unloading, safety check, and the difference between a semi-auto and a revolver. I let them know that there will be some recoil and loud noise so they would know what to expect.
CompVest wrote: There is a fine line between moving new shooters along to fast and not letting them move ahead when they are ready and interested. This is why I like set my private lessons for each individual student and run my classes at a middle ground pace with special attention paid to the slower paced learner and finishing with advanced drills for the more advanced shooters.
You are absolutely right. My unofficial "pistol 101" session is just enough to get them started but for further training I would have to pass them on to the experts. I told them to check out http://www.corneredcat.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; for more information. Since they live in E. Texas (Longview area) and I live in Frisco, Tx, I won't get many opportunities to work with them. Where do you do your training?
by jbenat
Sat Aug 01, 2009 8:35 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Gun Safety Rules
Replies: 140
Views: 97864

Re: Gun Safety Rules

USA1 wrote:
jbenat wrote:
USA1 wrote:
jbenat wrote:I'm taking my granddaughter and one of her girlfriends to the range this afternoon.
sounds fun , what kind of gun(s) will they be shooting ?
I'll start them off with a 22 semi auto and then probably move to 9mm. If they handle the 9mm without any problems I'll let them shoot something a little larger like 40 and/or 45 caliber and/or 357 mag (large, heavy revolver), no snubbies.
sounds like a good plan .
we expect a full report of how it goes :totap: ...good luck , be safe :tiphat:
WE had a lot of fun at the range (Bullet Trap, Plano, Tx) Thursday. My two little pupils were very careful and suprisingly good shots. I started them off with the 22 but that didn't last long. They easily moved up to the 9mm and then to the 40 caliber. I was worried they would be a little intimidated by the recoil and noise but no problem with either. My granddaughter (Ayla) loved shooting the 40 caliber the best. She turned out to be a excelent shot and was very excited by the whole experience. She posted her targets on her facebook page. http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/album ... 0007835868" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

They (the targets) have been decorated up just like you would expect a 17 year old girl to do. Very funny! :lol:
by jbenat
Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:05 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Gun Safety Rules
Replies: 140
Views: 97864

Re: Gun Safety Rules

USA1 wrote:
jbenat wrote:I'm taking my granddaughter and one of her girlfriends to the range this afternoon.
sounds fun , what kind of gun(s) will they be shooting ?
I'll start them off with a 22 semi auto and then probably move to 9mm. If they handle the 9mm without any problems I'll let them shoot something a little larger like 40 and/or 45 caliber and/or 357 mag (large, heavy revolver), no snubbies. I don't want to push them too hard by putting something in their hands that might turn them against shooting. Too many people try to bring new shooters along too fast and it only turns them away from shooting. My hope is that they will enjoy the experience and become avid, or at least occasional shooters that will never see guns as evil.
We (my better half and me) often take newbies (usaully from India that work with her) to the range. Many of them are from countries that have outlawed guns. They love to shoot and have their pictures taken with a gun to send home. The women are the easiest to train since they will actually listen to what you say and try to follow instructions. I've seen tiny little women take to big guns very quickly. They love the big bang and controlling recoil. Fun to watch! :coolgleamA:
by jbenat
Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:58 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Gun Safety Rules
Replies: 140
Views: 97864

Re: Gun Safety Rules

I'm taking my granddaughter and one of her girlfriends to the range this afternoon. Both are 17 y.O. and have never shot a gun. I spent considerable time with them yesterday making them read and re-read the safety rules until they can remember and recite them quickly. This morning I wll give them pistol handling and dry fire 101. By this afternoon they should know what end of the pistol to hold and how to not shoot themselves or anyone else. I'll watch them very closely when they have a loaded pistol in their hands.
I love teaching newbies and introducing them to our sport. :txflag:
by jbenat
Thu May 01, 2008 6:58 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Gun Safety Rules
Replies: 140
Views: 97864

Re: Gun Safety Rules

Tactical_Texan_CHL wrote:
( Sparrows dont taste like chicken! )
:smilelol5: OK, somebody has to do it, so I will. What DOES it taste like?
I don't think black birds taste like chicken. When I was a kid, my cousin and I were the terror of the local bird population with our BB guns. We thought we were great outdoorsmen so one day we decided to eat what we shot. So we cleaned and cooked a couple of black birds on a campfire. We actually ate those poor birds!! It's been so long ago that I don't remember what they tasted like but I guess they weren't too bad or I would remember that.
:headscratch

Now days I keep a bird feeder stocked to feed the birds as a way of atonement. :roll:
by jbenat
Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:09 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Gun Safety Rules
Replies: 140
Views: 97864

That's a good one!

"The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."

RHZIG; Love that quote! ;-)
by jbenat
Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:09 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Gun Safety Rules
Replies: 140
Views: 97864

Gun Safety Rules

I just read this at http://www.bersatalk.com Posted by "Plink" (Mike) on 03/07/2006 and thought it is worth passing on.
Gun safety. NEW SHOOTERS PLEASE READ! Old shooters read too Reply Quote
Howdy folks,

Even if this is so second nature that you can recite it in your sleep, please read this, read it all the way to the bottom, read it again, then save it to read down the road. Read it back to me, to all your friends and to yourself, and especially to anyone you teach to shoot. Make them recite it till it's burned into their memories and yours, then recite it again...and again, and again.

Never let us or yourself slip, no matter how long we've been shooting. Humans make mistakes, and if we keep an eye out for each other, we can learn from them and live to pass that knowledge on to others. Yes I'm going to YELL. If you see anyone being unsafe, YELL it back to them/me/us!

As a kid, I remember my dad teaching me gun safety. It seemed that there were 1000 rules. Asking "what's rule 39, paragraph 2, subsection B?" was nothing but confusing. There's no need for a zillion rules if 4 are ALWAYS followed. I repeat and stress ALWAYS.

1: Humans make mistakes.

All guns are ALWAYS LOADED! If someone unloads a gun and hands it to you, they have just handed you a LOADED GUN until you personally prove that it is empty by checking the chamber. If you are handling a gun that you know is "unloaded", it is LOADED until you check it again. Each and every time, no exceptions, no excuses!

There are too many people shot every year with "unloaded" guns. It happens when cleaning an "unloaded gun" (I lost a cousin to that), it happens when someone points an UNLOADED GUN (yes I do mean to shout..please hear me out) at someone or themselves, it even happens at gun stores (more on that later).

2. Humans make mistakes.

Never point the muzzle at anything you do not intend to destroy! Guns are safe, and guns protect lives. They do that by DESTROYING what they are discharged at. They are also indescriminate and will destroy anything or anyone they are discharged at, even by accident. WE are their brains. Do not point a gun at anything you do NOT intend to DESTROY...DESTROY! There's no such thing as a safe gun, only a safe shooter. Please be one.

3. Humans make mistakes.

NEVER put your finger on the trigger unless you are ready to shoot. If your sights are not on the target, there's no reason for your finger on the trigger, right? So DO NOT PUT IT THERE!

Modern guns in good repair will not fire on their own. They don't get in a bad mood and go off because they feel like it. They go off because someone pulled the trigger. If your finger isn't on the trigger, the gun will not go off. Don't put your finger there EVER unless you are ready to fire the shot at that moment. Otherwise, keep that sucker pointed out straight.

4. Humans make mistakes.

Always know where your bullet will go. You can shoot at a target, but the bullet can carry on and kill someone down range unless you know for a fact where that bullet will stop. DO NOT fire unless you know the bullet will stop harmlessly in a backstop and not carry on to injure someone down range.

If you don't get that deer this year because of an unsafe shot that you didn't take, well the hunter's life you might have saved has a family who is grateful. If you're target shooting, please make sure you have a safe backstop that you know will stop your bullets.

I'm fanatical about checking and double checking my guns before I bring them home, to make sure they are unloaded. I remember a trip to the range some years back, where I was having trouble with double action shots. When I got home I decided to do some double action dry firing, which is a great way to practice.

Knowing that I ALWAYS, I mean ALWAYS, check and double check my firearms to make sure they are unloaded before packing them up, I settled my sights on a spot on the wall with the fridge on the other side to satisfy rule #2. I was about to squeeze the trigger when I chastised myself for being so lazy and not checking the chamber, and racked the slide to satisfy rule #1. Out popped a round! A ROUND! Out of an "unloaded gun." Somehow, that gun had gotten overlooked, and even though the magazine was empty, the chamber was not. A moments laziness... Don't be lazy! Takes only a second to check, but a lifetime of regret if you don't...'nuff said.

A few years back, one of the local gunshops had an unforgivable accident. This is a decades old shop, with people who probably deal with more guns in a week than I've ever handled in my lifetime. Apparently a cop brought in his duty weapon for some type of repair, and the employee, in violation of several of the rules above, SHOT THE COP WITH HIS OWN GUN!

Luckily, the man survived, but there's just NO excuse for their unsafe gun handling, or mine for that matter. Now I'm a forgiving fellow, but I have not done business with them since. That's unforgivable, period.

The fact is, we're human. Humans make mistakes. Our mistake can cost someone else their life. That's a lot of the reason we're having to fight to keep our Second Amendment Rights. If we follow safe guidelines, the chances of our mistakes hurting someone is greatly reduced. See above; humans make mistakes! Please teach this to anyone who wants to enter the sport, and please keep an eye on yourself, me, and everyone else who enjoys it so that we can continue to do to.

One of the most satisfying things I can remember, happened last summer. I was teaching a single mother and her 11 year old son to shoot. They had never handled firearms before and I went into "safety nazi" mode and drilled the above over and over, especially the part about keeping your eye on other shooters.

I had finished a string with the .22 pistol I was teaching them with, and kept my finger on the trigger after the gun ran dry, to see if either noticed (most don't). I wasn't finished for more than a couple seconds, and the mother hadn't noticed, when the young son pointed out rather LOUDLY that I still had my finger on the trigger. I was very proud, and so was the mother when I smiled at him broadly with a "well done!".

Sorry for the long rant and I know I'm preaching to the choir, but it's something that many of us take too lightly. It has nothing to do with experience, as shown by my own mistake and the gun shop's, and those that we've all seen from others. Please always keep this at the very front of your thoughts when you shoot and especially when you teach others to shoot.

If any of you ever shoot with me, just know that I'm watching you! lol. I hope you're watching me just as closely, because humans make mistakes.


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