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03Lightningrocks wrote:

grumble wrote:Sent it via LSO "Consumer to Licensee (FFL)" It stinks you have to get a FFL (or two) involved to do something you shouldn't have to.

Thanks for all the help, folks!

Yep... It get's ridiculous alright. There never seems to be a shortage of folks wanting to add gun laws to the already restrictive laws we have. Whether it be shipping company employees or well intentioned but extremely misguided gun owners requiring copies of DL licenses and such.

So how much did LSO charge...if you don't mind me asking.

Package was 5lbs. From Plano to San Antonio, overnight, delivery by 3PM, insured for $500. $15.70 - ONE THIRD of what UPS wanted. They rock!

Sent it via LSO "Consumer to Licensee (FFL)" It stinks you have to get a FFL (or two) involved to do something you shouldn't have to.

Thanks for all the help, folks!

srothstein wrote:Grumble,

You might be able to save a little by going through the FFL only on your end. Even UPS should take the FFl to consumer intra-state without too much trouble. USPS definitely will.

I asked Tom Hart if he would do exactly that. He said once it goes into his book, it's got to go to another FFL, period. I don't know. I'm going to lose a sale on this one - c'est la vie.

Ha, already called him earlier today. Just waiting to see if the buyer is willing to go FFL to FFL. I told him that I would pick up his FFL fee on top of everything else.

At this rate, I should keep the gun... I keep it up, I'm going to be owing myself money after i get it to the buyer.

chabouk wrote:Common carriers are required to have a published tariff, which lists exactly what they will and will not ship. They may not deviate from that published tariff and keep their common carrier status. Any customer has the right to demand to see their regulations, and to demand that they comply with those regulations.

LOL, yup - and all is said and good if you are a lawyer, and the counter person is a lawyer. Unfortunately, that is not the case. With UPS that tariff is NOT clear to the lay person. Gotta give the staff at the centers credit - they called the 1-800 # for clarification. Unfortunately, the customer service person could not understand their own shipping rules and regulations, and opted to err on the side of caution. I could have stood there all day and argued with the customer service people. It still wouldn't have gotten taken.

Yes, UPS is wrong, and they are supposed to take the shipment. But that doesn't mean they will.

I'm trying to get with my buyer to see if he can do FFL to FFL. It's going to cost me more, and he won't get it tomorrow.

Mike1951 wrote:Obvious answer is to also try Fedex and Lone Star Overnight, if they have a terminal near you.

Tried both of those. Just got off the phone with Lone Star Overnight's customer service dept. and they say NO consumer to consumer. Only consumer to licensee and licensee to consumer. Arrgh.

Tried to send a handgun via UPS today to an individual in San Antonio. UPS would NOT take it. They refused. Told me it was against federal law (ha). Then they told me, ok it's not, but it's against OUR policy. I handed them the printout of THEIR policy. Guy says "read it however you want - I'm not putting MY job on the line and taking it" .. This was at the Dallas (Monroe) UPS Center. Drove over to DFW customer center, and they wouldn't take it either. Go figure. Now how am I going to get this to my buyer in San Antonio?