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by Outbreaker
Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:04 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Katy Mills Mall
Replies: 33
Views: 6476

Re: Katy Mills Mall

Katygunnut wrote:
drjoker wrote:Katygunnut,

I was told by another CHLer this story. The Willowbend Mall used to be 30.06 posted. However, not all the stores were posted. Only the mall entrances were posted. A customer entered the mall at a store entrance that was unposted. He had a cover garment malfunction that showed off his nice pistol. Someone called the cops and he got arrested. This guy sued the mall for damages and punitive damages for his false imprisonment and mental anguish, etc (IANAL). He then settled out of court for much less than what he initially asked for, provided that the mall permanently remove all the odious 30.06 signs. The guy successfully got all the 30.06 signs removed from the mall (yay!).

Carry away. If you do get arrested, be aware that you have done nothing wrong. Delete your post here on the forum, just in case (you need to prove that you were totally unaware of the 30.06 signs at the other mall entrances). Do not EVER use the posted entrances, even when you are unarmed because they WILL look over all the videos with a fine tooth comb. Also, you may not do anything illegal (such as robbing the mall). Finally, promise to reduce or make zero your monetary claims against the mall, provided that they take down the 30.06 signs for other CHLers. I pledge $100.00 towards your legal defense and/or bail if you were arrested for carrying at the mall in violation of 30.06. However, you must meet all the requests I have posted in this paragraph. I invite other gentlemen of distinction and concern for the 2nd Amendment to pledge the same.

Sincerely,
:tiphat:
I can't in good faith delete my post and act like I am not aware of the signs. That would be dishonest.

I will avoid that mall, however. The only reason I go is if I want to look at overpriced guns at BPS, or if the kids want me to spend $10 for 5 minutes on their rock wall. I'm sure that I can find good alternatives for my time and money.
What is nice about our system is they have to prove the case. You never have to lie. If the security footage shows you only entering the unmarked entrances and never approaching the marked ones they can't win. Because you do not have to take the stand.
by Outbreaker
Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:05 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Katy Mills Mall
Replies: 33
Views: 6476

Re: Katy Mills Mall

Charles L. Cotton wrote:If the sign complies with TPC §30.06 and you know it's there, then you can be prosecuted if you enter the mall. Entering a store that is not posted is less clear. If that store's lease contract requires it to follow the mall's rules regarding its "no guns" policy, then arguably the 30.06 signs would apply to that store's location as well. If the lease is silent, then there's a good argument that the 30.06 signs apply only to the common areas, as well as any offices used by the mall owner.

Chas.
If you enter the store from the outside (and it is not posted) and the entrance to the mall from the store is not posted. So you never see a 30.06 sign. How are you to be informed that the mall is off limits?
by Outbreaker
Mon Nov 08, 2010 2:36 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Katy Mills Mall
Replies: 33
Views: 6476

Re: Katy Mills Mall

I have wondered this as well. My instructor stated that as long as you do not see a sign....carry away. He is a Sheriff Deputy and gave a instace of a call he responded to due to a CHL holder carrying where not allowed. He did not arrest because the entrance the individual was parked at and entered through was not marked.....at all. Therefore he did not recieve any notice not to carry. No problem until a security officer saw the imprint.

It was not at Katy Mills but a hospital.

I carry at Katy Mills regularlly but always enter through BPS or Burlington.

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