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Charles L. Cotton wrote:I'll say it until the day I die. Hispanics are natural Republicans because they share the same beliefs held by the core of the Republican Party. The gap between us is the immigration issue and we either accept that fact and fix it, or the GOP will gradually die over the coming years and it will take the values we share with it.

Chas.

So what does it mean to fix the immigration issue? We just accept the millions of people that have entered our country illegally? We support some sort of earned amnesty? I'm really curious.

Personally, I look at people's behavior and make judgments. If you have sex with other women than your wife, then I am not going to be surprised when you renege on your political promises. If you enter the country illegally, then I won't be surprised when you have no respect for the law.

I just don't see how we resolve the immigration problem without abandoning core principles.

Of course, I believe the country is already lost and it's a waste of time to try to do anything about it, but I know there are lots of people who still hold out hope.

TexasCajun wrote:

baldeagle wrote: Anyone who thinks Obama gives a hoot about getting along or about helping the United States is deluding themselves. Obama's goal is and always has been to destroy this country, and he was well on his way before being re-elected. What's about to happen will shock those who haven't been paying attention or haven't sought out the truth.

The 1st and 2nd Amendments will be the first to go. The rest is just a matter of time.

Then stand up & fight for it not to be so BEFORE it happens. I believe that Obama's self-interest will move him to try to cooperate. He wants a legacy & he won't leave the rest of the Dems out to dry. The trick for us is to not let him get any momentum.

Your beliefs don't match his actions. The mistake far too many people make is to listen to men's words. What they do tells you who they are. Obama has no interest in a legacy or in helping the Dems. This election was the watershed. His "advisors" are already planning his third term. (The second was planned a long time ago.) It's over. America is over. The Constitutional Republic of our Founders no longer exists.

How are you going to fight? The Senate will stop anything the House tries to do to preserve our rights, and Obama is already on record saying he won't need Congress in his second term. He's already (unconstitutionally) used his office to grant amnesty and shut down the coal industry. What makes you think he won't start enforcing gun control without the "help" of Congress? When the kerfluffle about the UN monitoring Texas elections came up, Obama actually said that Texas had no right to stop the UN poll watchers. What more do you need to know to understand he doesn't care about legacies, political compromise or America? And the media will lie for him every step of the way to keep the sheep in the dark until the shackles are locked.

It isn't giving up to face reality. When you're so grossly outnumbered that you have no chance of winning, you have two choices; stand, fight and die or run and hide and look for another day to fight.

TexasCajun wrote:A couple of things that we should take away from BHO's re-election:

1. While the electoral vote was pretty decisive, the popular vote was much closer. And althought the popular vote doesn't do much for the actual election, it can have an effect on future policy. The fact that just under half of the country wanted the other guy should be reason for the current regime to move toward a more moderate position on several issues. No, he won't be trying to garner favor for another election. But he is a politician, & politicians really do worry about their legacy. I honestly don't think that the President is in a position to force a 'take-it-or-leave-it" position on any issue. He's going to have to reach across the aisle in order to get anything done. Plus the Democrats will want to put up a candidate in 2016, so BHO may not be so willing to say to heck with the half that didn't want him for the sake of whomever the Dems will want to put up after him.

Anyone who thinks Obama gives a hoot about getting along or about helping the United States is deluding themselves. Obama's goal is and always has been to destroy this country, and he was well on his way before being re-elected. What's about to happen will shock those who haven't been paying attention or haven't sought out the truth.

The 1st and 2nd Amendments will be the first to go. The rest is just a matter of time.