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by VMI77
Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:25 pm
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Topic: Philly - got a gun, go to jail
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Re: Philly - got a gun, go to jail

baldeagle wrote:
Heartland Patriot wrote:If you look at the numbers in that, you'll just see that the man who combed through the FBI stats has it correct. The vast bulk of murders in this country occur in population centers with more than 250K and are concentrated in the bad neighborhoods in those population centers. The data from the UK mirrors this....they far fewer large population centers, so they have fewer murders. I know that people need jobs and want to live where there is economic activity, but I'm sure it helps to stay out of the "bad part of town". Not a cure-all, because bad guys do like to get around, but it certainly doesn't hurt.
That's not quite true. According to the FBI crime stats by population group:
Murder and non-negligent manslaughter - 250,000 population and over accounts for 5,606 of the total (10,823) in 2011 (just under 52%.) That means 48% of the murders and non-negligent homicides occurred in smaller cities (1,833 in 100,000 to 249,999, 1,095 in 50,000 to 99,999, 891 in 25,000 to 49,999, 763 in 10,000 to 24,999 and 635 in under 10,000 population groups - a 20% increase over 2010 although overall the statistic was down 1.3%.)

We need an academic study that shows precisely where these crimes occur, by population center. That would probably buttress your point that some areas of big cities are more dangerous than other areas. (Everyone "knows" this intuitively.) The problem is, the study would likely be labeled as racist, since blacks commit almost 53% of the homicides in this country (where the offender has been identified - 28% are never identified) but only represent about 13% of the population. (Blacks kill almost exclusively members of their own race - 49% of the murder victims are black.)
This may be a little misleading. 49% of the victims may be black, but those victims are also mostly killed by perps who are black. I think something like 90% of of blacks killed are killed by other blacks, so IOW, 90% or so of those killed by blacks are other blacks.
by VMI77
Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:37 am
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Philly - got a gun, go to jail
Replies: 11
Views: 1239

Re: Philly - got a gun, go to jail

Heartland Patriot wrote:If you look at the numbers in that, you'll just see that the man who combed through the FBI stats has it correct. The vast bulk of murders in this country occur in population centers with more than 250K and are concentrated in the bad neighborhoods in those population centers. The data from the UK mirrors this....they far fewer large population centers, so they have fewer murders. I know that people need jobs and want to live where there is economic activity, but I'm sure it helps to stay out of the "bad part of town". Not a cure-all, because bad guys do like to get around, but it certainly doesn't hurt.
I know what you're saying, and I also know you can't say it because certain facts are prohibited from discussion these days. But I read awhile back that when you filter out the crime in those bad neighborhoods, our murder rate is actually nearly the same or lower than the equivalent rate in the UK. And let's not forget why we have those bad neighborhoods and who created them: they are entirely the product of decades of liberal social policies that destroy families, reward indolence, punish initiative, eliminate individual responsibility, undermine basic civility and morality, and encourage decadence and depravity.

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