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by RoyGBiv
Thu May 11, 2023 12:32 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: ID Requests from Law Enforcement
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Re: ID Requests from Law Enforcement

Rafe wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 8:57 am
Tex1961 wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 8:24 pm
srothstein wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 8:21 pm I think this is a very gray area of the law. As posted, the law requires you to display both your ID and LTC if you are asked to by a peace officer or magistrate. There are two problems with this. The first is that the penalty for not doing so has been repealed, which makes it a useless law....
Can you point to the relevant section where the penalty was repealed.
Steve will know more accurately, but I believe it was in 2009, the 81st Regular Legislature. The bill that was enrolled, signed, and made effective as of September 1, 2009, was HB 2730: https://capitol.texas.gov/Search/DocVie ... &DocType=B (you'll need to use your browser to search for the second instance of "fails to display a license" because the text is too long for the TLO's search-term highlight).

Prior to this, GC 411.187 had as item (2) that a license to carry a handgun "may be suspended under this section if the license holder"..."fails to display a license as required by Section 411.205."

HB 2730 struck that line completely, and now GC 411.187 makes no mention of any penalty for failure to display: https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs ... tm#411.187.
Good find! I had trouble tracking that down... Thanks.
Sec. 411.205. REQUIREMENT TO DISPLAY [DISPLAYING]
LICENSE[; PENALTY]. [(a)] If a license holder is carrying a
handgun on or about the license holder's person when a magistrate or
a peace officer demands that the license holder display
identification, the license holder shall display both the license
holder's driver's license or identification certificate issued by
the department and the license holder's handgun license. ̶[̶A̶ ̶p̶e̶r̶s̶o̶n̶
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