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Zoo wrote:

WildBill wrote:Is having a Texas license plate considered probable cause in California?

Having a Texas CHL seems to be probable cause for DPS to assume your guns are stolen.

Lawl not just DPS

bdickens wrote:The only proper response to a request by an LEO to look at anything is "No."

Lesson learned a little late haha

It was right after nightfall. I was pulled over because the officer followed me for 5 miles right on my tail to wait for me to do something wrong, and out of nervousness I went about 2 inches over the right line. I live in Montgomery, and no passengers. Also, I gave limited consent, and the other firearms were not in plain sight. They said "we have a lot of thefts going on around here, so we just want to check everything out make sure everything is ok" or something along those lines. I don't believe in giving up my rights to make someone else comfortable. Also, the officer was new to the department from Houston, and seemed to have an attitude of guilty until proven innocent. The chief was courteous and professional enough, just misinformed and made sure to cover up for his fellow officer.

Thanks for all of your responses. I was just wondering what everyone thought. Next time I will flat out refuse consent to any search.

chasfm11 wrote:

the chief told me that possessing legal weapons is probable cause for detention and search, and that there was a supreme court decision backing that up

Stuff like this always fascinates me Is this really true?

IANAL but I thought probable cause was a reason suspicion of wrong doing. Detecting an odor of marijuana is probable cause for attempting to confirm the possession of an illegal drug (at least in Texas).

How can some legal activity be PC for an illegal one?

This is exactly what I said. It was in Montgomery, Texas, and a city officer. Yeah there was nothing found that would have made them not need consent. He was a old Houston officer, and Houston was the precinct that decided to arrest motorist with weapons under MPA anyway, so they don't seem to actually care what the law says in my eyes. I just wanted to complain to show that that would not be allowed up here, but then the chief backed him up and spewed his garbage.

Beiruty wrote:Blow it off and live your life. Next, please.

This Is the problem, is people blowing off police misconduct. We need to stand up to those who think they can do what they please, they need to know that they work for the people.

A few months ago, I got pulled over. I handed the officer my chl, and advised him my handgun was in center console, plus shotgun and rifle in back seat. He asked me to step out. He then asks if he can look at the pistol to make sure it's legal, but not touch it. I said sure, as I want to appear compliant. A few minutes later, another officer arrives. At this point the first officer begins pulling my guns out, one by one, and calling the numbers in and measuring the barrel lengths. He never asked to do this. When I filed a formal complaint, the chief told me that possessing legal weapons is probable cause for detention and search, and that there was a supreme court decision backing that up. I say they violated my 4th amendment. Thoughts?