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I agree all the stupid gun laws should be removed. Bottom line is if youo are not a felon, carry away.

As far as finding another place to eat, it is easier said than done. If my child wants to go to Astroworld or Six Flags, what is an officer supposed to do. If he should have his gun and does not, he can get days off or lose his job. If he does not take the children out and do "family things" the house mouse gets upset.

Just think of this all as one step closer to universal carry.

Glenn

I do not take offense, but I must point out the CHL's have no required duty to act.

CHL holders are not required to prevent theft, the consequenses of theft, or breaches of the peace.

Some LEO's are required to carry a weapon with them even when not on the clock. The 30.06 signs do not apply to LEO's anyway, only CHL's.

LEO's are already exempt from laws concerning carrying a gun, and the law states that it is no difference if in the commission of official duty or not. There is no restriction on me carrying in a bar, a church, a hospital, school, etc... There already exists a difference in status on carry between CHL's and LEO's

I do not see what everyones opposition to this bill is. If you do not want an LEO in your house, then he will not come in unless he has a warrant or PC. Commercial properties are a different story, but there is already quite a bit of regulation and normally for the good.

If it was up to me, I would say carry when and where you want, I could care less. The fact is however, it is not up to me. In the mean time, people who support gun rights should support this bill. This is a prime example of a divided front. Even if it is a law that does not "help" everyone out, it does "help" someone out.

The same group that would oppose this probably opposed national concealed carry for police saying it violated states rights and created a two class system.

What suggestions do yall have when one is required to carry a gun, is required to act when certain crimes take place in your presence, but some Demo Lib wants to make his place "safer" by not allowing LEO's in his resteraunt.

Glenn

dolanp, this bill would not effect the need for PC to enter private property. If PC exists, there is no reason for consent from the owner. I believe under 30.05 LEO's are exempt from crim tress is in the course of thier official duty.

This bill is to keep places like Astroworld or the Summit from telling LEO's they can not bring thier guns in. It is not a bill that will allow LEO's to walk into your house and say, "You can't stop me 'cause I'm wearn' a gun, boy."

An example that is out of control was Devereaux (I don't know how to spell it) in League City. It is a rehab place and a good friend of mine in uniform was going to interview a "resident" there. They told him they do not allow guns and he would need to leave his in his police car.

Another example, one of our officers was dropping her child off at day care in uniform, and the day care lady told her should could not bring her gun back inside next time. (Texas law allows ANY Texas peace officer to check ANY Texas day care facility at ANY time for proper postings and the such in the facility.)

These are example of what would be put an end to. Remember this is not an us vs. yall issue. You do not like 30.06 signs and would love to see them all come down. This is not some invasion by the govt conspiracy. Again, this would only keep people from discriminating against LEO's, based solely on thier armed/not armed status.

Glenn

I think a lot of people are getting hung up on off-duty and on-duty. There really is no such animal. As an LEO, I am either on paid time or not, I am always there to act if a felony, or theft occurs in my presence.

It should also be pointed out that it does not take away your right to exclude an off the clock LEO from your property, it bars someone from excluding them if the only reason is because they are carrying a weapon.

I think it would be a good law, especially when it deals with commercial property, as they are already regulated quite a bit by codes, statutes, city ords., etc...

Of course I might be biased. :)

Glenn