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Re: Range membership advice

Postby puma guy » Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:02 pm

Pawpaw wrote:Worse that that, it says "Official Partner of OCT".

That seals it for me. I wouldn't go there on a bet and Forney isn't too far away from me.

Paw Paw, so you're saying you won't recommend it for a meet up? "rlol" "rlol"
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Re: Range membership advice

Postby TrueBlu » Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:09 pm

Just to be clear. I meant that I am not the type to have someone take $300 out of my pocket, offer a service, and give me zip. However, I am also 53, since I have my CHL and have barely had speeding tickets I'm not going to go to anyone's private property and act stupid. Exactly why I haven't gone to see this fella, as he and the money aren't worth a fight or a trespassing charge. If he needed money and deserved the charity I'd give him the dang money. But, at this point he appears to be a dishonorable business owner at best.

If I do nothing but let people know this guy hasn't had the decency of any communication and so far he has "taken" my money with no form of service in return, it'll be worth the peace of mind that a few may avoid also giving him their money.

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Re: Range membership advice

Postby Pawpaw » Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:11 pm

puma guy wrote:
Pawpaw wrote:Worse that that, it says "Official Partner of OCT".

That seals it for me. I wouldn't go there on a bet and Forney isn't too far away from me.

Paw Paw, so you're saying you won't recommend it for a meet up? "rlol" "rlol"

Nope! Not even on your dime!!! :mrgreen:
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Re: Range membership advice

Postby puma guy » Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:42 pm

Pawpaw wrote:
puma guy wrote:
Pawpaw wrote:Worse that that, it says "Official Partner of OCT".

That seals it for me. I wouldn't go there on a bet and Forney isn't too far away from me.

Paw Paw, so you're saying you won't recommend it for a meet up? "rlol" "rlol"

Nope! Not even on your dime!!! :mrgreen:

I hope that guy is not to any of my family. Got a lot of kin in that neck of the woods. :shock:
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Re: Range membership advice

Postby joe817 » Sun Feb 21, 2016 11:01 pm

TrueBlu wrote:Just to be clear. I meant that I am not the type to have someone take $300 out of my pocket, offer a service, and give me zip. However, I am also 53, since I have my CHL and have barely had speeding tickets I'm not going to go to anyone's private property and act stupid. Exactly why I haven't gone to see this fella, as he and the money aren't worth a fight or a trespassing charge. If he needed money and deserved the charity I'd give him the dang money. But, at this point he appears to be a dishonorable business owner at best.

If I do nothing but let people know this guy hasn't had the decency of any communication and so far he has "taken" my money with no form of service in return, it'll be worth the peace of mind that a few may avoid also giving him their money.



I totally agree TrueBlu. Sorry that you've had to go through this junk. Small claims court would be a good course of action IMO. I don't think any further communication would be of any benefit what so ever. Best of luck to you. :tiphat:
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Re: Range membership advice

Postby The Annoyed Man » Sun Feb 21, 2016 11:25 pm

TrueBlu wrote:You know, I intentionally didn't include the name of the range. But I'm not sure at this point he deserves respect, and I have now asked for my money back, in writing, on multiple occasions. So, it's Fusion Range in Forney.

So now send him the link to this thread.
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Re: Range membership advice

Postby rotor » Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:54 am

Soccerdad1995 wrote:This is one reason why I use credit cards whenever possible.

First, decide how much this matters to you. You could go with a small claims court filing if the amount is worth your time.


I agree with this.

If you go out to the range to shoot and someone is there to collect the daily fee (???) can't you go with your cancelled check and point out your claim at that time?
I guess what most surprised me is the annual cost. I pay $40 a year for a family membership and have trap, skeet, 5 stand and sporting clays (all are inexpensive ) as well as ranges.


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Re: Range membership advice

Postby zimmerdesignz » Mon Feb 22, 2016 2:05 pm

rotor wrote:
Soccerdad1995 wrote:This is one reason why I use credit cards whenever possible.

First, decide how much this matters to you. You could go with a small claims court filing if the amount is worth your time.


I agree with this.

If you go out to the range to shoot and someone is there to collect the daily fee (???) can't you go with your cancelled check and point out your claim at that time?
I guess what most surprised me is the annual cost. I pay $40 a year for a family membership and have trap, skeet, 5 stand and sporting clays (all are inexpensive ) as well as ranges.

Where are you getting $40 a year for family?
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Re: Range membership advice

Postby rotor » Mon Feb 22, 2016 4:53 pm

zimmerdesignz wrote:
rotor wrote:
Soccerdad1995 wrote:This is one reason why I use credit cards whenever possible.

First, decide how much this matters to you. You could go with a small claims court filing if the amount is worth your time.


I agree with this.

If you go out to the range to shoot and someone is there to collect the daily fee (???) can't you go with your cancelled check and point out your claim at that time?
I guess what most surprised me is the annual cost. I pay $40 a year for a family membership and have trap, skeet, 5 stand and sporting clays (all are inexpensive ) as well as ranges.

Where are you getting $40 a year for family?

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Re: Range membership advice

Postby GlassG19 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:14 am

TrueBlu wrote:I think it's funny you assume I am a hair away from shooting someone when I say I am confrontational. No wonder people might hesitate to ask a question on this site. Sheesh!



Confrontational! From your story, I wouldn't consider you being confrontational. :smilelol5:
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Re: Range membership advice

Postby GlassG19 » Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:21 am

rotor wrote:
Soccerdad1995 wrote:This is one reason why I use credit cards whenever possible.

First, decide how much this matters to you. You could go with a small claims court filing if the amount is worth your time.


I agree with this.

If you go out to the range to shoot and someone is there to collect the daily fee (???) can't you go with your cancelled check and point out your claim at that time?
I guess what most surprised me is the annual cost. I pay $40 a year for a family membership and have trap, skeet, 5 stand and sporting clays (all are inexpensive ) as well as ranges.



That's what I would do. Go to range like normal & tell manager or whoever is in charge on duty that they can look up the payment & solve it in a "I'm here & I paid my dues" type demeanor & I'm confident they will check then while you're there. Plus, like OP. said bring your cancelled check along. Best of luck.
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Re: Range membership advice

Postby GlassG19 » Wed Mar 02, 2016 7:20 am

truckster wrote:
TrueBlu wrote:I think it's funny you assume I am a hair away from shooting someone when I say I am confrontational. No wonder people might hesitate to ask a question on this site. Sheesh!

I thought the same thing. Some people have a negative connotation with that word. I took your use of being confrontational in that you won't be bullied or treated as second class and you'd let the guy know he was fostering a terrible relationship with a potential long term member.

I too am the confrontational type but I'm quite tactful and methodical in my approach when needed.



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Re: Range membership advice

Postby The Annoyed Man » Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:29 am

joe817 wrote:
TrueBlu wrote:Just to be clear. I meant that I am not the type to have someone take $300 out of my pocket, offer a service, and give me zip. However, I am also 53, since I have my CHL and have barely had speeding tickets I'm not going to go to anyone's private property and act stupid. Exactly why I haven't gone to see this fella, as he and the money aren't worth a fight or a trespassing charge. If he needed money and deserved the charity I'd give him the dang money. But, at this point he appears to be a dishonorable business owner at best.

If I do nothing but let people know this guy hasn't had the decency of any communication and so far he has "taken" my money with no form of service in return, it'll be worth the peace of mind that a few may avoid also giving him their money.



I totally agree TrueBlu. Sorry that you've had to go through this junk. Small claims court would be a good course of action IMO. I don't think any further communication would be of any benefit what so ever. Best of luck to you. :tiphat:

In my opinion, further communication should come in either the form of a letter from an attorney, or a subpoena for small claims court. If you let this stand, he will do it to other people too.
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Re: Range membership advice

Postby MechAg94 » Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:13 pm

I agree with some of the comments above: You need to go further than phone calls and emails before resorting to a lawsuit. I would suggest visiting to talk to them. You can go the letter route, but going in person just makes more sense. If you are concerned, set up your cell phone to record the conversation before you go in.

In all likelihood, the guy is just poorly organized and doesn't keep up well with messages. Of course, this all assumes he is still in business.


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Re: Range membership advice

Postby Deitz83 » Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:46 pm

I paid for the use of the property. The business cashing my check gives me that right. Heck, I would have been there every weekend. The owner not calling me back and not having a card; does not prevent me from spending time with my love one, for something I paid for. heck, I would have drove over there with a smile on my face asking for assistance. Why should I treat this issue different than any other issue, ie: Walmart return or Best Buy. I guess I missed something here..


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