Informal Tests: Hornady Critical Defense Ammo

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Re: Informal Tests: Hornady Critical Defense Ammo

Postby NcongruNt » Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:47 pm

Excaliber wrote:
TexasVet wrote:The polymer filling looks very similar to Cor-bons Pow'R Ball, except the ball in the Cor-bon load makes the round feed like ball ammo. And you can get it in 9mm Mak and many others. According to the websites Hornady critical defense numbers 9mm 115gr. 1140/332 (vel/energy at muzzle) vs. the Pow'R ball 9mm (p+) 100gr. 1450/467 (vel/energy at muzzle).
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From the very limited and generally informal test results I've seen, the soft hollowpoint filler in the Critical Defense ammo and in Federal's Expanding Full Metal Jacket offering seems to offer an increase in expansion reliability over many other rounds.

My understanding of the purpose of the Pow'r Ball's plastic tip is feeding reliability, not prevention of plugging by barrier material. Also, in the Pow'r Ball tests I've seen, the bullet and jacket often come out in pieces, where the Critical Defense rounds appear to retain virtually all of their weight .

I haven't seen a head to head test of the new Hornady and Federal rounds against the CorBon Pow'r Ball, but it sure would make an interesting comparison.

Anybody know a gun writer with access to lots of free ammo from all 3 companies?


They actually do promote it as a solution to plugging. From the website:

Pow'RBall will not get plugged by heavy clothing. This ammunition will give you confidence and peace of mind knowing you can count on it in a critical situation.


As far as performance is concerned, I've seen the same kind of results from tests I've read - jacket separates a lot. IMO, Cor-bon is a little too proud of that round. This niche bullet is simply a HP plugged with a little piece of plastic. It doesn't appear that they're even bonded bullets. So they've got a low-quality, low mass (only 70grn in .380, 100grn in 9mm), high-velocity JHP with a bit of plastic in the end of it.

Considering that the Hornady ammo is of better quality manufacture, a more effective bullet mass(90grn in .380, 115/124/147grn in 9mm), and 40 cents/round cheaper than the Pow'rball, I'll stick with the Hornady.
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Re: Informal Tests: Hornady Critical Defense Ammo

Postby Mcoupe » Fri Jan 02, 2009 12:23 am

Nice report. Thanks a bunch. I am going to buy some.
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Re: Informal Tests: Hornady Critical Defense Ammo

Postby kalipsocs » Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:02 am

Yes kudos are in order as I think this has replaced my desire for finding the expensive Corbon DPX. While the DPX is still an outstanding load, this seems to be just as effective if not more for a much more reasonable price. I would also like to see how this does out of a "pocket gun" barrel.
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Re: Informal Tests: Hornady Critical Defense Ammo

Postby blacktop » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:45 pm

I shot a full box of the .380 in my brand new Ruger LCP after warming up with 100 rounds of the cheap Winchester and Remington from Wallyworld. It fed fine with no problems and was extremely accurate and consistent. Recoil was similar to the other rounds I fired. It'll definitely be my carry ammo for the LCP.
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Re: Informal Tests: Hornady Critical Defense Ammo

Postby Greybeard » Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:20 am

A guy at our range last night said he'd just got a box of the stuff in 380 while passing through Amarillo - at Gander Mountain. Disappointing that it's available in Amarillo, but not yet at Academy in Lewsiville ...
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Re: Informal Tests: Hornady Critical Defense Ammo

Postby NcongruNt » Sun Jan 25, 2009 3:00 am

Greybeard wrote:A guy at our range last night said he'd just got a box of the stuff in 380 while passing through Amarillo - at Gander Mountain. Disappointing that it's available in Amarillo, but not yet at Academy in Lewsiville ...


I've never known Academy to carry a good selection of SD ammo in general. At the ones around here, I've NEVER seen Speer or Hornady ammo. Generally, it's only Federal, and even then, it's only the "personal protection" stuff.
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Re: Informal Tests: Hornady Critical Defense Ammo

Postby flb_78 » Sun Jan 25, 2009 6:33 pm

Greybeard wrote:A guy at our range last night said he'd just got a box of the stuff in 380 while passing through Amarillo - at Gander Mountain. Disappointing that it's available in Amarillo, but not yet at Academy in Lewsiville ...


He must have picked it up as soon as they set it out because there was absolutely no .380 ammo to found at all. Nothing, zip, nada!!!

I was going to pick up some of this... :grumble
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Re: Informal Tests: Hornady Critical Defense Ammo

Postby ghostrider » Sun Jan 25, 2009 6:49 pm

>I've never known Academy to carry a good selection of SD ammo in general.

Agreed. Though the one in Sunset Valley does carry Hornady TAP.
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Re: Informal Tests: Hornady Critical Defense Ammo

Postby saltydog » Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:30 pm

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Re: Informal Tests: Hornady Critical Defense Ammo

Postby cdc101 » Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:27 am

I just picked up 3 boxes of Hornady Critical Defense in .380 at my local Academy (Lake Jackson) just this past weekend.

Of course the shelves are bare again as of last night...on everything but 9mm.
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Re: Informal Tests: Hornady Critical Defense Ammo

Postby KC5AV » Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:47 pm

A friend of mine shot a 9mm round of this into a 20 oz. soda bottle the other day. He said it was from about 50 feet away. It entered the bottle, and fully expanded, but did not exit the bottle. The bottle was left fully intact, other than the entry hole. Would this be considered normal? I'd have expected it to do more damage to the bottle, even at that range.
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Re: Informal Tests: Hornady Critical Defense Ammo

Postby Keith B » Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:50 pm

KC5AV wrote:A friend of mine shot a 9mm round of this into a 20 oz. soda bottle the other day. He said it was from about 50 feet away. It entered the bottle, and fully expanded, but did not exit the bottle. The bottle was left fully intact, other than the entry hole. Would this be considered normal? I'd have expected it to do more damage to the bottle, even at that range.


Soda bottles are pretty thick glass. Add the density of the liquid and you have some pretty big resistance against a bullet. Take a look at the Box O' Truth or Mythbusters Episode 34 tests when they shoot into water and see how much stopping power it has against a projectile and the outcome of your friends shot makes a lot of sense.
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Re: Informal Tests: Hornady Critical Defense Ammo

Postby KC5AV » Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:54 am

Keith B wrote:
KC5AV wrote:A friend of mine shot a 9mm round of this into a 20 oz. soda bottle the other day. He said it was from about 50 feet away. It entered the bottle, and fully expanded, but did not exit the bottle. The bottle was left fully intact, other than the entry hole. Would this be considered normal? I'd have expected it to do more damage to the bottle, even at that range.


Soda bottles are pretty thick glass. Add the density of the liquid and you have some pretty big resistance against a bullet. Take a look at the Box O' Truth or Mythbusters Episode 34 tests when they shoot into water and see how much stopping power it has against a projectile and the outcome of your friends shot makes a lot of sense.


This was a plastic bottle.
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Re: Informal Tests: Hornady Critical Defense Ammo

Postby Keith B » Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:35 am

KC5AV wrote:This was a plastic bottle.


Even at that, I could see the plastic clogging the hollow-point and substantially slowing down the bullet when combined with the pressure exerted from the liquid inside the bottle. Then, there is the liquid to try and penetrate too. Was it a 1-liter bottle or the small 16oz size?
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Re: Informal Tests: Hornady Critical Defense Ammo

Postby KC5AV » Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:11 am

It was either a 16oz. or 20oz.
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