Met Up with an Old Friend...

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Met Up with an Old Friend...

Postby Stephen A. Camp » Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:03 pm

...from the 1980's and my early years in the tactical unit!

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This lightly personalized Mk II was the first Hi Power I was "officially authorized" to carry for both regular duty and tactical call-outs when the police department I worked for allowed autoloaders. (Prior to that, I had sometimes carried a Hi Power under my uniform jacket but that was not much in Texas weather.)

I wound up selling this Mk II and others (mistake) when the Mk III made its debute. Recently I got an opportunity to revisit and photograph this old thing for a project I'm involved in and thought I'd share a picture or two and a tiny bit of this pistol's "history".

This one has not kept good company. It "visited" with two armed robbers, one bank robber and more meth and crack dealers than I can honestly remember, but it never had a "conversation" with any of them; it never needed to; they complied with police orders and never threatened me.

If interested, a little more about the gun can be had here:

http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/Ligh ... k%20II.htm

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Re: Met Up with an Old Friend...

Postby The Annoyed Man » Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:21 pm

Stephen, it looks from the pictures like the size and carry weight of this gun, fully loaded, would be similar to that of a steel framed 1911. Is that about right?
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Re: Met Up with an Old Friend...

Postby Stephen A. Camp » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:09 pm

Hello. It weighs 32 oz. empty or very close depending on grips. How much it weighs fully-loaded would depend upon the particular load. Fourteen 124-gr. factory Remington 9mm cartridges weigh right at 6 oz. so that would bring the loaded (13 +1) weight to about 38 oz. An empty 1911-pattern pistol weighs about 39 oz, so the Hi Power weighs a bit less loaded with 124-gr. ammo than an empty 5" 1911 style pistol.

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Re: Met Up with an Old Friend...

Postby ELB » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:01 pm

On another forum, you once mentioned that when burglar (I think) you were hunting suddenly stepped out in front of you, you discovered a Hi Power would fit in a burglar's mouth right up to the ejection port. Is this that Hi Power? ;-)
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Re: Met Up with an Old Friend...

Postby mctowalot » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:08 pm

:shock: "rlol"
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Re: Met Up with an Old Friend...

Postby Stephen A. Camp » Thu Sep 02, 2010 7:34 pm

Hello. No, sir. In that instance, the pistol was a Colt Commander .45 ACP. (I am not sure which of us was the most surprised!)

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Re: Met Up with an Old Friend...

Postby ghostrider » Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:52 pm

very nice picture.
thanks for sharing.
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Re: Met Up with an Old Friend...

Postby The Annoyed Man » Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:55 pm

Well a pistol like that is certainly tempting. I like the classic lines of it. Are they particularly fragile or finicky, or do they just soldier along without hiccups?
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Re: Met Up with an Old Friend...

Postby esxmarkc » Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:08 pm

On another forum, you once mentioned that when burglar (I think) you were hunting suddenly stepped out in front of you, you discovered a Hi Power would fit in a burglar's mouth right up to the ejection port. Is this that Hi Power?



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Re: Met Up with an Old Friend...

Postby ghostrider » Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:21 pm

Are they particularly fragile or finicky


no.
while not as durable as a 9mm 1911, they will last for a long time if not abused (say with thousands of rounds of SMG ammo like the SAS has been known to do in the past).

As for finicky, I've found mine to be extremely reliable; I used to shoot IPSC (USPSA) with one. I'm a big fan of the hipower (in case you couldn't tell). I sold my G26 when I realized the hipower was actually easier to conceal with its narrower, round slide.

Steve has an excellent site on the hipower and is quite an expert on the design, though he is too humble to admit it:
http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/

This is also a good site:
http://hipowertalk.com/forum/
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Re: Met Up with an Old Friend...

Postby ELB » Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:56 pm

My Hi power is rock solid reliable and should pretty much last forever. Occasionally someone has a problem, but I have never heard anyone complain about them being "finicky" like people do about 1911s.

The HP was designed to be a military weapon and use FMJ ammo. Older model Hi Powers (and there are still a lot of those around) had a "humped" feed ramp that works great with FMJ, but sometimes not so well with hollowpoints. FN redesigned the feed ramp in the 1980s I think with the Mark II version, and all modern ones work just fine with FMJ. With a skilled touch the older humped feed ramps can be lightly flattened a bit to work with hollowpoint ammo if you want a shooter instead of a historical piece.
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