Dallas Gun Show Revolver Finds...

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Dallas Gun Show Revolver Finds...

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Hello. Found a couple of nice revolvers at decent prices today at a gun
show in Dallas.

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The first is an S&W Model 64-2 w/2" bbl. This .38 Special revolver was in as NIB as I've seen NOT to actually be NIB. The lady who handled the sale didn't know if it was or not. IF it is used, it is but slight. Timing is perfect and the action is much smoother than expected; it did come with the old blue S&W cardboard box, cleaning gear, and instructions.

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This Model 65-5 .357 Magnum is a police trade-in. I was able to pick through several and chose this one after the seller was kind enough to remove the tie, allowing me to try the action. Timing is perfect and the action is smooth, though not so smooth as the Model 64. It had been shot some, but no end play, no warped or bent ejector rod and the yoke-to-frame fit is nice with no large gap. It came with a fairly large set of Pachmayr grips on it which I replaced with the more compact Pachmayr's.

I have not yet had time to shoot them, but plan to ASAP. Internally both were clean and with no buggered up screw heads. The side plate on the Model 64 is exceptionally tight; frankly I do not think it's been off the gun since the factory assembled it.

My range times usually finds me with some sort of automatic, normally a 9mm Browning or a .45 ACP/.38 Super on the 1911 platform, but of late I've really been trying to pick up older S&W revolvers while they can be found.

Assuming that these two perform satisfactorily, they've found a permanent home so there's two more out of circulation. If you are interested in these types of handguns, I'd be getting while the getting's good so to speak. Twenty years ago, these would be "ho-hum-too-vanilla-and-can-always-get" sort of revolvers. Sadly, I fear that those days are closing fast.

Best.
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WOW :shock: You did good today. Those are very nice looking.

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:drool:

Good find, you can not go wrong with the Smith revolvers.

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Shot the Model 64

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Hello. I didn't have too much time but did manage to shoot the Model 64-2 snub.

All firing was done in double-action, standing and with a two-hand hold at 10, 12 and 15 yards. For some shooting at 45 to 50 yards, I did fire the revolver single-action.

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This group was fired in slow-fire with the ammo being used and the distance on the target.

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The lighter bullet 130-gr. Winchester JFP struck a bit lower but windage remained satisfactory. It was also fired DA in slow-fire.

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Ditto on this target. An interesting thing is that I noted no difference in felt recoil from the Model 64 between this and the standard pressure LRN in the same 158-gr. weight. Such is not the case (for me) when shooting these loads through my considerably lighter Model 642.

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At 12 yards, I practiced some "failure to stop" drills using both hands on the revolver and firing double-action as quickly as I could obtain a "flash" sight picture. I didn't have a timer but estimate probably a bit less than a second per shot starting from a low-ready position. Ammunition used was Remington's 158-gr. LSWCHP +P.

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At 15 yards, I fired DA using a two-hand hold in slow-fire. Most shots grouped nicely but I did have some I blew. The Model 64 was doing its part; I just wasn't doing mine.

I also shot a few falling plates at about 12 yards and shot at approximately 45 to 50 yards using bits of debris on the firing range berm as targets. On these, I fired the revolver in single-action. Some hits were made but misses were not extreme; they were close.

The revolver was fired a total of 256 shots with varied .38 Special factory ammo I had at hand. There were absolutely no problems. Primer hits were plenty good and extraction an ease; no sticking cases.

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I rather enjoy this thing despite its size and weight for being "only a 38". For a snub, I find it exceptionally easy to shoot and expect that it will be shot quite a bit in coming years. If you happen to like snubs in .38 Special and get a chance at one of these, you might give it serious consideration.

This snub was bought for a couple of reasons. One, I happen to enjoy shooting revolvers as well as semiautos and I do find the snub .38 to be a viable "serious gun" with appropriate loads. I was more than a little tickled to find that the POA = POI with the Remington 158-gr. LSWCHP +P. After a bit more shooting with this little gun, I'll be ready to trust it and when that day comes, it will likely be loaded with the LSWCHP +P for "serious" purposes should one present itself... but mainly I find it a heck of a lot of fun.

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Shot the Model 65...a little...

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Hello. Yesterday I was able to shoot the Model 65 a bit but not a lot. I fired only at 15 yards and only with two 357 Magnum loads: S&B 158-gr. JFP and Corbon's mid-power 125-gr. DPX. I will have to do more shooting to be sure, but it appears that at 15 yards, my revolver hits approximately 1 1/2 to 2" high with the S&B and dead-on (POA = POI) with the DPX. Hopefully, I can get out with a bit wider variety of ammunition and some handloads and do a meaningful evaluation, but so far, so good.

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With this load, this Model 65 hit the 2" bullseye with a dead-on hold. With the heavier 158-gr from S&B, it would require a 6 O' Clock hold. Both seemed to group in the 2" range fired DA, standing and using a two-hand hold.

No problems cropped up and it appears that the revolver will probably be satisfactory, but I only shot 50 rnds of the S&B and 12 rounds of the DPX.

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