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03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:56 am

tomneal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:48 am https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2022/11/17/ ... es-n511930


Uvalde Police Chief Retires
Maybe to avoid being fired

Personal thoughts.
Every LEO that was on campus but didn't break in to the classroom and end the issue, should be fired.

More than 380 armed LEO weere on the scene.

More than 380 armed LEO were on the scene.

I stand by my previous statement. If you weren't among those busting down the door to the classroom. You should not be in law enforcement.

There were concequences for the children. There should be concequences for on-site law enforcement.

tomneal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:51 pm

More than 380 armed LEO were on the scene.

I stand by my previous statement. If you weren't among those busting down the door to the classroom. You should not be in law enforcement.

There were concequences for the children. There should be concequences for on-site law enforcement.

My only caveat is that maybe the cops outside had no idea that the cops inside were chewing gum and making sure they had plenty of hand sanitizer. All the cops inside that school should definitely be fired. If cops staging the scene had no idea of the situation inside, it is hard to judge them.

Part of the consequences. You wait outside the door, and you and ALL your coworkers are fired.

These officers prevented armed Law Enforcement Officers that had family in the classroom from going inside, to try to save them.

They shamed us all. They should ALL be fired, kicked out of law enforcement, and forced to move out of town.

Just watch the transcript from Arredondo's report, he Actually Stated that he ordered them to not do what they trained to do and basically said he hoped the gunman didn't kill to many but they had him contained! OMG, he's as guilty as the shooter!

crazy2medic wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:26 pm Just watch the transcript from Arredondo's report, he Actually Stated that he ordered them to not do what they trained to do and basically said he hoped the gunman didn't kill to many but they had him contained! OMG, he's as guilty as the shooter!

I believe there was a recent report that said the officers at the scene thought all the kids were dead, when they were not. Many only died later at the hospital.

I was on a Tactical Team for 8yrs as the Team Medic, we trained that it's a hostage situation until the first shot is fired and then you storm it! What Arredondo did was gross negligence, he should be sued by every family that had a child in that room until he's living in a Cardboard Box

philip964 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:41 pm

crazy2medic wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:26 pm Just watch the transcript from Arredondo's report, he Actually Stated that he ordered them to not do what they trained to do and basically said he hoped the gunman didn't kill to many but they had him contained! OMG, he's as guilty as the shooter!

I believe there was a recent report that said the officers at the scene thought all the kids were dead, when they were not. Many only died later at the hospital.

Anybody with a lick of intelligence knows that many of those kids would have lived if they had stormed that room and taken that guy out immediately. The good Lord only knows how many of them layed on the ground all that time and bled out.It angers me to the point of wanting to just spit.

Personal thoughts.
Every LEO that was on campus but didn't break in to the classroom and end the issue, should be fired.

I still agree with my previous statement.

We still don’t know where a kid working at Burger King got the money to buy guns I can’t afford.

philip964 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 12:26 am We still don’t know where a kid working at Burger King got the money to buy guns I can’t afford.

He was the spawn of a family of felons. His grandpa was a convicted felon, his mother and her boyfriend were drug addicts/probably dealers. Drugs and cash are usually a combo for drug dealing people. I am sure these details never emerged because he was a hispanic kid and the details would screw up the leftist narrative.

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:33 am

philip964 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 12, 2023 12:26 am We still don’t know where a kid working at Burger King got the money to buy guns I can’t afford.

He was the spawn of a family of felons. His grandpa was a convicted felon, his mother and her boyfriend were drug addicts/probably dealers. Drugs and cash are usually a combo for drug dealing people. I am sure these details never emerged because he was a hispanic kid and the details would screw up the leftist narrative.

We still don’t know.

But!

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/e ... l-29752960

Words not allowed on the forum, since he has plenty of time in the classroom, he grabs some blood from the kids in his hands and scrawls “LOL” on the white board.

philip964 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:41 pm

crazy2medic wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:26 pm Just watch the transcript from Arredondo's report, he Actually Stated that he ordered them to not do what they trained to do and basically said he hoped the gunman didn't kill to many but they had him contained! OMG, he's as guilty as the shooter!

I believe there was a recent report that said the officers at the scene thought all the kids were dead, when they were not. Many only died later at the hospital.

It's called the "Golden Hour". You need to get victims to a hospital within 1 hour and their chances of survival are dramatically higher. From what I am understanding the transcript is strong evidence that Arredondo wanted those children to die. It's no secret he was a supporter of Beto and what Beto is working to do (steal our guns/rights/freedom).

Girl, 15, got text from Uvalde school shooter before he massacred 21 - but did nothing

The teenage girl just replied "cool" and did not alert the police

I just wonder who else encouraged/enabled Ramos. My guess is Arredondo knew who Ramos was, but took no action against him, even though Ramos should have been in jail for unlawful threats and animal cruelty.

Someone is hard at work preventing the public from finding out how many people died at Uvalde for lack of appropriate timely medical response:

Medical analysis of the Uvalde massacre stopped

Not to disparage the law enforcement officials that finally took action, but the leadership at Uvalde waited past the "golden hour" which is the critical time interval wounded need to receive medical care in order to survive. The timing itself is a red flag.