KS:Witchta man dies after fake "Swatting" call

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KS:Witchta man dies after fake "Swatting" call

Postby philip964 » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:01 pm

Summoned by a Prank Call, Police in Wichita Kill a Man at His Front Door - The New York Times
https://apple.news/AgjLdp8ixTAa7BjHMm9IGdw

Call of duty video game on line dispute leads to fake address being given then prank swatting call. Unarmed uninvolved man at his moms house is killed when swat surrounds the house and orders him out side. He apparently failed to keep his arms raised after being told to raise his hands.

Sounds like it was a rifle round as supposedly the officers body camera shows someone off in the distance.


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Re: KS:Witchta man dies after fake "Swatting" call

Postby WTR » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:36 pm

All to often the Police seem to be all to ready to kill fellow civilians without verifiable cause. Judge, Jury and Exicutioner. Hopefully the family will receive just compensation if such a sum exists.

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Re: KS:Witchta man dies after fake "Swatting" call

Postby parabelum » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:45 pm

WTR wrote:All to often the Police seem to be all to ready to kill fellow civilians without verifiable cause. Judge, Jury and Exicutioner. Hopefully the family will receive just compensation if such a sum exists.


Agree 100%. Little too frequent.
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Re: KS:Witchta man dies after fake "Swatting" call

Postby OneGun » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:52 pm

The article I read indicated that the victim was shot when he reached for an unknown object. The person that called in the report to the police described the victim as having a gun and was shooting people. All too often the police are placed in a position of having to make split-second decisions with imperfect information. In this case the caller lied to the police and out the police on a hyper-tensive situation.
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Re: KS:Witchta man dies after fake "Swatting" call

Postby Pawpaw » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:04 am

You can watch the video here: http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article192111974.html

They had a spotlight on the guy. It looked to me like he put up his hand to shield his eyes and got shot for it.
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Re: KS:Witchta man dies after fake "Swatting" call

Postby WTR » Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:37 am

Sad to see that the Police Cheif is blaming everyone ( including the victim) except his Officers for the killing.

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Re: KS:Witchta man dies after fake "Swatting" call

Postby LDB415 » Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:51 am

Whoever made the bogus call should be charged with murder and held fully accountable.
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Re: KS:Witchta man dies after fake "Swatting" call

Postby Crossroads » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:36 am

LAPD has arrested the "SWATer", no bail set, working with Wichita PD on case. He does have a past arrest for calling in a bomb threat to a TV studio in addition to bragging about calling in bomb threats to a gaming event in Dallas.

https://www.engadget.com/2017/12/30/lap ... g-wichita/
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Re: KS:Witchta man dies after fake "Swatting" call

Postby 1911 Raptor » Sat Dec 30, 2017 8:32 am

I agree it looks like the man is trying to shield his eyes from the spotlight. With the distance involved why would they need to shoot him? It doesn’t appear that he is an immediate threat to anyone at that time. Our police forces are becoming trigger happy.


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Re: KS:Witchta man dies after fake "Swatting" call

Postby flechero » Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:30 am

What an awful case... I hope the swatter faces manslaughter or worse. The fact that the police were on scene because of a fake swatting call, doesn't mean they didn't mess up either. I hate to armchair QB but from the footage I saw, it sure looked like he went from hands up to shading his eyes with one hand...

I hope the family can find peace.


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Postby WTR » Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:57 am

Who ever did the SWATing needs to be charged to the full extent of the law. The Officer who pulled the trigger needs to ride a desk and never allowed a weapon again.

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Postby The Annoyed Man » Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:20 am

LDB415 wrote:Whoever made the bogus call should be charged with murder and held fully accountable.

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Re: KS:Witchta man dies after fake "Swatting" call

Postby MechAg94 » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:17 pm

Who the heck trains these cops? There was no justification whatsoever for that shot. He was so far away that even if he had a pistol the police were in very little danger. The cop who shot should be up on charges right alongside the person who called in the fake SWATing report. His hands appeared to still be in view to me.

This looks very much like the case in Arizona of the Texas man who was murdered. Maybe a few murder convictions will lead to a change in this behavior.


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Re: KS:Witchta man dies after fake "Swatting" call

Postby WTR » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:19 pm

MechAg94 wrote:Who the heck trains these cops? There was no justification whatsoever for that shot. He was so far away that even if he had a pistol the police were in very little danger. The cop who shot should be up on charges right alongside the person who called in the fake SWATing report. His hands appeared to still be in view to me.

This looks very much like the case in Arizona of the Texas man who was murdered. Maybe a few murder convictions will lead to a change in this behavior.
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Re: KS:Witchta man dies after fake "Swatting" call

Postby MechAg94 » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:33 pm

Perhaps another question or two for the members here:

1. If cops roll up on your house tonight and order you out of the house. Would you do it?

Seeing this action, I wouldn't set foot outside or show myself in a window for fear of being shot. I would be concerned they would start shooting at silhouettes in the window if they didn't see anything else. All I can think of is to stay out of sight and call 911 and try to talk to someone.

2. If (like in Arizona) police confront you in the open, what would you do?

I think I might just go prone on the ground and refuse to move. It appears any movement will get you shot no matter what it is.
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