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CALL TO ACTION: SB905

Postby Charles L. Cotton » Fri May 13, 2011 3:06 pm

When SB905 comes to the House Floor, Rep. Kleinschmidt plans to offer an amendment that extends it provisions from just elected officials to all CHL's who are on their 3rd or later renewals. Some will ask why the amendment will not cover all CHLs, but I can't go into that now. It's going to be hard enough to fight off a point-of-order.

Please call your Representative and ask him/her to support any amendment to SB905 that is offered by Rep. Kleinschmidt and to oppose any amendments to the Kleinschmidt amendment that are not acceptable to the author (Kleinschmidt).

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Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

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Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

Postby Jasonw560 » Fri May 13, 2011 3:36 pm

I tweeted mine, but without begging. And the same with Rep. Aaron Pena. Pena reads his tweets during session.
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Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

Postby terryg » Fri May 13, 2011 3:43 pm

Wow, third renewals. How many years would that be?
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Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

Postby Mike1951 » Fri May 13, 2011 3:54 pm

terryg wrote:Wow, third renewals. How many years would that be?


That depends. Those of us in from the beginning renewed at two years, six years, and then ten years.

But the four year term was extended to five years, so the answer could be anywhere between ten and fifteen years.
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Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

Postby mgood » Fri May 13, 2011 3:57 pm

I felt something like this coming when so many were bashing 905. :cool:
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Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

Postby hirundo82 » Fri May 13, 2011 3:58 pm

terryg wrote:Wow, third renewals. How many years would that be?


14 years and change, since the initial license is until the birthday 4 years after the date of issuance and each renewal is good for 5 years. I think the only people who currently would be on their third renewal or later would be those who have held a CHL since the first year it was issued or shortly thereafter (1996==>1st renewal in 2000==>2nd renewal in 2005==>3rd renewal in 2010).
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Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

Postby flintknapper » Fri May 13, 2011 3:58 pm

Charles L. Cotton wrote:When SB905 comes to the House Floor, Rep. Kleinschmidt plans to offer an amendment that extends it provisions from just elected officials to all CHL's who are on their 3rd or later renewals. Some will ask why the amendment will not cover all CHLs, but I can't go into that now. It's going to be hard enough to fight off a point-of-order.

Please call your Representative and ask him/her to support any amendment to SB905 that is offered by Rep. Kleinschmidt and to oppose any amendments to the Kleinschmidt amendment that are not acceptable to the author (Kleinschmidt).

Thanks,
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That would include me, BUT....how would you go about identifying a CHL who was (or wasn't) eligible? There is currently nothing on my license (that I know of) that distinguishes my third renewal status from that of others.
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Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

Postby mgood » Fri May 13, 2011 3:59 pm

Mike1951 wrote:
terryg wrote:Wow, third renewals. How many years would that be?


That depends. Those of us in from the beginning renewed at two years, six years, and then ten years.

But the four year term was extended to five years, so the answer could be anywhere between ten and fifteen years.

But if we get this passed, in a lot less than fifteen years from now, it'll be for every CHL and not just third renewals. ;-)
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Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

Postby RHenriksen » Fri May 13, 2011 4:05 pm

Charles L. Cotton wrote:When SB905 comes to the House Floor, Rep. Kleinschmidt plans to offer an amendment that extends it provisions from just elected officials to all CHL's who are on their 3rd or later renewals. Some will ask why the amendment will not cover all CHLs, but I can't go into that now. It's going to be hard enough to fight off a point-of-order.

Please call your Representative and ask him/her to support any amendment to SB905 that is offered by Rep. Kleinschmidt and to oppose any amendments to the Kleinschmidt amendment that are not acceptable to the author (Kleinschmidt).

Thanks,
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Phew! I'm so glad there is some bending going on on this issue. Charles, would the wording include any love (address...) for those who *had* a CHL, didn't renew, and then signed up for another one? In other words, I got my CHL right when they became available in 1995. Drew the short straw, and got a two-year application. I worked full time @ Univ of Houston, and could never freakin' carry; so let my CHL lapse. Clean record - no suspensions, etc. Got a new CHL in 2009. So how would this be addressed by the prospective wording in the bill?

I will send a thank you to Rep Kleinschmidt, and contact my own Rep.

Edit: The staffer in Rep Kleinschmidt's office hasn't even heard about this planned amendment yet! I asked her to pass along a thank-you, and the same question about non-contiguous blocks of CHL possession.
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Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

Postby BrianSW99 » Fri May 13, 2011 4:46 pm

flintknapper wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:When SB905 comes to the House Floor, Rep. Kleinschmidt plans to offer an amendment that extends it provisions from just elected officials to all CHL's who are on their 3rd or later renewals. Some will ask why the amendment will not cover all CHLs, but I can't go into that now. It's going to be hard enough to fight off a point-of-order.

Please call your Representative and ask him/her to support any amendment to SB905 that is offered by Rep. Kleinschmidt and to oppose any amendments to the Kleinschmidt amendment that are not acceptable to the author (Kleinschmidt).

Thanks,
Chas.

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That would include me, BUT....how would you go about identifying a CHL who was (or wasn't) eligible? There is currently nothing on my license (that I know of) that distinguishes my third renewal status from that of others.


Since this bill only makes it a "defense to prosecution", I expect you'd have to prove it in court.
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Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

Postby blue » Fri May 13, 2011 4:59 pm

goose.. gander..

Do we disregard if we are NOT on 3rd renewal yet? (Semi serious)

--FLUSH the abomination. PERIOD!
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Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

Postby hirundo82 » Fri May 13, 2011 5:07 pm

blue wrote:goose.. gander..

Do we disregard if we are NOT on 3rd renewal yet? (Semi serious)

--FLUSH the abomination. PERIOD!


We get this through for anyone on their third renewal or later this time, and I bet next time we can get it down to anyone on their first renewal. It's like the current campus carry bill not covering private schools or teaching hospitals--it's not perfect, but it's a good starting point for future sessions.
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Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

Postby terryg » Fri May 13, 2011 5:10 pm

hirundo82 wrote:
blue wrote:goose.. gander..

Do we disregard if we are NOT on 3rd renewal yet? (Semi serious)

--FLUSH the abomination. PERIOD!


We get this through for anyone on their third renewal or later this time, and I bet next time we can get it down to anyone on their first renewal. It's like the current campus carry bill not covering private schools or teaching hospitals--it's not perfect, but it's a good starting point for future sessions.


I agree. I didn't mean to sound so negative - I was just wondering why they picked 3 - thats a lot of years.
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Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

Postby blue » Fri May 13, 2011 5:12 pm

O.K. Then 3rd renewal for ALL, elected and peons.
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