Rep Jason Villalba to file bill allowing armed teachers

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Rep Jason Villalba to file bill allowing armed teachers

Postby oldtexan » Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:18 pm

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Re: Rep Jason Villalba to file bill allowing armed teachers

Postby MeMelYup » Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:46 pm

They should allow as many of the teachers and admin to participate as want to, after a sych exam, not limit it to 1 per 400 students as stated.
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Re: Rep Jason Villalba to file bill allowing armed teachers

Postby Ericstac » Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:55 pm

Is that one chl teacher per 400 students a required minimum or the max allowed? That is not nearly enough.
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Re: Rep Jason Villalba to file bill allowing armed teachers

Postby RPB » Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:13 pm

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Re: Rep Jason Villalba to file bill allowing armed teachers

Postby powerboatr » Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:59 pm

teachers need to teach, they have way to much to take care to be armed protectors
two plain clothes armed agents per 300 kids should be affordable.
we could have em armed as backup
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Re: Rep Jason Villalba to file bill allowing armed teachers

Postby RoyGBiv » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:05 pm

oldtexan wrote:http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/Villalba-Allow-Teachers-to-Carry-Concealed-Guns--183967301.html

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Re: Rep Jason Villalba to file bill allowing armed teachers

Postby RHenriksen » Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:10 am

Great news. But why 1:400?
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Re: Rep Jason Villalba to file bill allowing armed teachers

Postby anygunanywhere » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:24 am

powerboatr wrote:teachers need to teach, they have way to much to take care to be armed protectors
two plain clothes armed agents per 300 kids should be affordable.
we could have em armed as backup
imo


You are kidding, right?

Do you carry? Do you use the same reasoning for yourself? If you ever considered using your firearm in defense of others then your statements are hypocritical.

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Re: Rep Jason Villalba to file bill allowing armed teachers

Postby oldtexan » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:24 am

RHenriksen wrote:Great news. But why 1:400?


I don't know how the 400 figure was chosen.
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Re: Rep Jason Villalba to file bill allowing armed teachers

Postby oldtexan » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:43 am

powerboatr wrote:teachers need to teach, they have way to much to take care to be armed protectors
two plain clothes armed agents per 300 kids should be affordable.
we could have em armed as backup
imo


According to the Texas Education Agency there were over 4.9 million students in Texas public schools in 2010-2011. That's probably at about 5 million now. Two agents per 300 students would yield about 33,300 agents. Who pays their salaries, medical care, pensions? Then we'd have to have people to recruit, train, certify and supervise those 33K, maybe another few thousand. Then we'd have to equip all those agents with weapons, communication systems, etc, etc, and maintain said equipment. In a time of significant pressure to cut government spending, who's going to foot the bill?
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Re: Rep Jason Villalba to file bill allowing armed teachers

Postby RHenriksen » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:47 am

oldtexan wrote:
powerboatr wrote:teachers need to teach, they have way to much to take care to be armed protectors
two plain clothes armed agents per 300 kids should be affordable.
we could have em armed as backup
imo


According to the Texas Education Agency there were over 4.9 million students in Texas public schools in 2010-2011. That's probably at about 5 million now. Two agents per 300 students would yield about 33,300 agents. Who pays their salaries, medical care, pensions? Then we'd have to have people to recruit, train, certify and supervise those 33K, maybe another few thousand. Then we'd have to equip all those agents with weapons, communication systems, etc, etc, and maintain said equipment. In a time of significant pressure to cut government spending, who's going to foot the bill?


Not to mention that we all have regular day jobs. By powerbtr's logic, all of us should hand in our CHLs and turn over our pistols to police buy-back programs, as none of us have time to protect ourselves and our families.
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Re: Rep Jason Villalba to file bill allowing armed teachers

Postby RPB » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:56 am

viewtopic.php?f=94&t=60380&p=742332#p742332

Police chief agrees

St. Louis Police Chief: We Arm Pilots, Why Not Teachers?

Just cross-linking for ease of finding in 2013 Leg session if someone needs it (like when Charles quickly needed to find a post about USACE property once)
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Re: Rep Jason Villalba to file bill allowing armed teachers

Postby KC5AV » Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:07 pm

oldtexan wrote:http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/Villalba-Allow-Teachers-to-Carry-Concealed-Guns--183967301.html

Look closely. There is now a survey on the page asking
Do you think America needs to reinstate the Assault Weapons Ban that expired in 2004 as some lawmakers are suggesting?
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Re: Rep Jason Villalba to file bill allowing armed teachers

Postby RPB » Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:14 pm

KC5AV wrote:
oldtexan wrote:http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/Villalba-Allow-Teachers-to-Carry-Concealed-Guns--183967301.html

Look closely. There is now a survey on the page asking
Do you think America needs to reinstate the Assault Weapons Ban that expired in 2004 as some lawmakers are suggesting?

Poll on mine
http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/Villalba ... 67301.html

Would you approve of teachers being armed at your child's school?

Yes
57% 315
No
43% 241
Total Votes: 556
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Re: Rep Jason Villalba to file bill allowing armed teachers

Postby KC5AV » Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:32 pm

I see what happened... I hit the link in the 4th post... from RPB. The permianbasin360.com page has the AWB poll.
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