HB 485, HB 972 & HB 1349 on today's Intent Calendar

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HB 485, HB 972 & HB 1349 on today's Intent Calendar

Postby baldeagle » Fri May 17, 2013 9:18 am

Will try to listen in.
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Re: HB 485, HB 972 & HB 1349 on today's Intent Calendar

Postby artx » Fri May 17, 2013 7:47 pm

Any word on HB 972?


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Re: HB 485, HB 972 & HB 1349 on today's Intent Calendar

Postby Coogan » Fri May 17, 2013 8:05 pm

artx wrote:Any word on HB 972?

Senator Birdwell did not bring it up today. It is again on the Intent calendar for Monday.

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Re: HB 485, HB 972 & HB 1349 on today's Intent Calendar

Postby baldeagle » Fri May 17, 2013 8:48 pm

HB 485 passed. HB 1349 was pulled down when Senator Whitmire (Dean of the Senate) lectured Senator Patrick about bringing up such a controversial bill so late in the day. (Patrick didn't take too kindly to the lecture and stood his ground but out of respect for the Senate he pulled it down.) I suspect that's why Birdwell didn't even bother to bring HB 972 for a vote. Expect fireworks next week.
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Re: HB 485, HB 972 & HB 1349 on today's Intent Calendar

Postby J.R.@A&M » Fri May 17, 2013 9:59 pm

Bald Eagle, thanks for the original heads up, as well as this summary. I look forward to Monday. Kinda like the Cowboys playing on Monday night football :)
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Re: HB 485, HB 972 & HB 1349 on today's Intent Calendar

Postby 2firfun50 » Fri May 17, 2013 10:13 pm

J.R.@A&M wrote:Bald Eagle, thanks for the original heads up, as well as this summary. I look forward to Monday. Kinda like the Cowboys playing on Monday night football :)


The only difference is we might win!!!! :evil2: "rlol"

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Postby jmra » Sat May 18, 2013 1:22 am

2firfun50 wrote:
J.R.@A&M wrote:Bald Eagle, thanks for the original heads up, as well as this summary. I look forward to Monday. Kinda like the Cowboys playing on Monday night football :)


The only difference is we might win!!!! :evil2: "rlol"

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Re: HB 485, HB 972 & HB 1349 on today's Intent Calendar

Postby RHenriksen » Sat May 18, 2013 7:10 am

Hb1349 is considered controversial?
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Re: HB 485, HB 972 & HB 1349 on today's Intent Calendar

Postby CJD » Sat May 18, 2013 9:04 am

RHenriksen wrote:Hb1349 is considered controversial?

Whitmire was arguing that it would lead to peace officer indictment, he said "you can beat the rap but not the ride." He thinks aggressive district attorneys will go after every case in which an officer takes a gun. I don't think so because the law only applies to federal laws which are not laws of the state. So if the officer follows state law I would think they would be fine. I won't even go into why democrats would want us all disarmed and big government control, which this bill would keep from happening, therefore they oppose it.


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Re: HB 485, HB 972 & HB 1349 on today's Intent Calendar

Postby JKTex » Sat May 18, 2013 11:40 am

RHenriksen wrote:Hb1349 is considered controversial?


That was exactly my first thought.

Are y'all sure it was HB1349? 1349 has to do with not requiring a SS on a CHL app.

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Re: HB 485, HB 972 & HB 1349 on today's Intent Calendar

Postby JJVP » Sat May 18, 2013 1:35 pm

baldeagle wrote:HB 485 passed. HB 1349 was pulled down when Senator Whitmire (Dean of the Senate) lectured Senator Patrick about bringing up such a controversial bill so late in the day. (Patrick didn't take too kindly to the lecture and stood his ground but out of respect for the Senate he pulled it down.) I suspect that's why Birdwell didn't even bother to bring HB 972 for a vote. Expect fireworks next week.



HB 1349 controversial??

HB 1349 (Larson, R): Relating to information that may be requested by the Department of Public Safety from a person applying for or renewing a concealed handgun license.
Impact: Prohibits the Tex. Dept. of Public Safety from requiring the disclosure of an applicant for a Texas Concealed Handgun License to provide their social security number.
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Re: HB 485, HB 972 & HB 1349 on today's Intent Calendar

Postby CJD » Sat May 18, 2013 1:46 pm

Oh, oops. Sorry :oops: I was thinking 1314

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Re: HB 485, HB 972 & HB 1349 on today's Intent Calendar

Postby baldeagle » Sat May 18, 2013 1:48 pm

Doh! Sorry about that. It was HB 1314 not HB 1349. Relating to the unlawful seizure of a firearm by a governmental officer or employee; providing penalties.
SECTION 1. Chapter 46, Penal Code, is amended by adding
Section 46.16 to read as follows:
Sec. 46.16. UNLAWFUL SEIZURE OF FIREARM. (a) A person who
is an officer or employee of the United States, this state, or a
political subdivision of this state commits an offense if the
person, while acting under color of the person's office or
employment, intentionally or knowingly seizes a firearm as
permitted or required by a federal statute, order, rule, or
regulation that:
(1) imposes a prohibition, restriction, or other
regulation on firearms that does not exist under the laws of this
state; and
(2) violates the United States Constitution.
(b) For purposes of this section, a person acts under color
of the person's office or employment if the person acts or purports
to act in an official capacity or takes advantage of such actual or
purported capacity.
(c) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor.

The concern expressed is that aggressive prosecutors would be pursuing LEOs who confiscate someone's weapons in the course of a seizure of other property (such as drugs). The argument seemed rather silly to me, but Whitmire seemed quite irritated about it.
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