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SB16 Inspecial Session
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:56 am
by 2firfun50
Folks, while we are grieving the coming failure of Campus Carry, we're missing our last opportunity of this session!
SB16, the sign bill will pass if we get behing it and get it added to the special session. Complaints about cities' illegal postings has been running on the Forum since 2005.
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This a burr under our saddle that can be removed if we quit crying in our beer and get busy.
Focus people, FOCUS
We need a dedicated call to action, intense action, directed specifically on SB16 and nothing else. The Governor, Lt Gov, and Specker of the House owes us this much. Since their "failure to do right" cost us the legal rememdy so badly needed.
So lets jam the fax machines, fill up the voice mails, fill up the Emails, hold to speck to a real person. This can be done. We're not dead yet!!!!!!!!!!
Re: SB16 Inspecial Session
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:47 am
by 2firfun50
Here is the body of the email/fax I have sent to the Governor, Lt Governor, and Speaker of the House.
The one gun bill out there needing special session consideration that will pass quickly has been refiled as SB16. This bill provides legal redress to all Texas citizens and particularly CHL holders. Cities and counties in Texas have been, and continue, to routinely deny concealed carry in government owned buildings in direct violation of State Law. This one bill will correct the behavior of offending cities and counties.
This bill, if voted on as written, should pass quickly. It only died as HB508 during the regular session due to boot strapping by the Senate.
If I am reading the Texas Constitution correctly, Dewhurst could slide it onto the special session agenda when Perry goes off to smooze with the New Yorkers. Whether either of them has the stones remains to be seen.
Re: SB16 Inspecial Session
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:40 pm
by Bladed
2firfun50 wrote:If I am reading the Texas Constitution correctly, Dewhurst could slide it onto the special session agenda when Perry goes off to smooze with the New Yorkers. Whether either of them has the stones remains to be seen.
I think you're right.
Sec. 8. CONVENING LEGISLATURE ON EXTRAORDINARY OCCASIONS. (a) The Governor may, on extraordinary occasions, convene the Legislature at the seat of Government, or at a different place, in case that should be in possession of the public enemy or in case of the prevalence of disease threat. His proclamation therefor shall state specifically the purpose for which the Legislature is convened.
(b) The Governor shall convene the Legislature in special session to appoint presidential electors if the Governor determines that a reasonable likelihood exists that a final determination of the appointment of electors will not occur before the deadline prescribed by law to ascertain a conclusive determination of the appointment. The Legislature may not consider any subject other than the appointment of electors at that special session.
(Amended Nov. 6, 2001.)
Sec. 16. LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR. (a) There shall also be a Lieutenant Governor, who shall be chosen at every election for Governor by the same voters, in the same manner, continue in office for the same time, and possess the same qualifications. The voters shall distinguish for whom they vote as Governor and for whom as Lieutenant Governor.
(b) The Lieutenant Governor shall by virtue of his office be President of the Senate, and shall have, when in Committee of the Whole, a right to debate and vote on all questions; and when the Senate is equally divided to give the casting vote.
(c) In the case of the temporary inability or temporary disqualification of the Governor to serve, the impeachment of the Governor, or the absence of the Governor from the State, the Lieutenant Governor shall exercise the powers and authority appertaining to the office of Governor until the Governor becomes able or qualified to resume serving, is acquitted, or returns to the State.
(d) If the Governor refuses to serve or becomes permanently unable to serve, or if the office of Governor becomes vacant, the Lieutenant Governor becomes Governor for the remainder of the term being served by the Governor who refused or became unable to serve or vacated the office. On becoming Governor, the person vacates the office of Lieutenant Governor, and the resulting vacancy in the office of Lieutenant Governor shall be filled in the manner provided by Section 9, Article III, of this Constitution.
(Subsecs. (a), (b), and (c) amended and Subsec. (d) added Nov. 2, 1999.) (TEMPORARY TRANSITION PROVISIONS for Sec. 16: See Appendix, Note 1.)
Of course, whether Dewhurst CAN do this and whether he WOULD do this are two different questions. He has to weight the slim possibility that campus carry could pass in just ten days against the possibility that adding campus carry to the call could blow up the entire special session.
Re: SB16 Inspecial Session
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:18 pm
by 2firfun50
Bladed wrote:2firfun50 wrote:If I am reading the Texas Constitution correctly, Dewhurst could slide it onto the special session agenda when Perry goes off to smooze with the New Yorkers. Whether either of them has the stones remains to be seen.
I think you're right.
Sec. 8. CONVENING LEGISLATURE ON EXTRAORDINARY OCCASIONS. (a) The Governor may, on extraordinary occasions, convene the Legislature at the seat of Government, or at a different place, in case that should be in possession of the public enemy or in case of the prevalence of disease threat. His proclamation therefor shall state specifically the purpose for which the Legislature is convened.
(b) The Governor shall convene the Legislature in special session to appoint presidential electors if the Governor determines that a reasonable likelihood exists that a final determination of the appointment of electors will not occur before the deadline prescribed by law to ascertain a conclusive determination of the appointment. The Legislature may not consider any subject other than the appointment of electors at that special session.
(Amended Nov. 6, 2001.)
Sec. 16. LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR. (a) There shall also be a Lieutenant Governor, who shall be chosen at every election for Governor by the same voters, in the same manner, continue in office for the same time, and possess the same qualifications. The voters shall distinguish for whom they vote as Governor and for whom as Lieutenant Governor.
(b) The Lieutenant Governor shall by virtue of his office be President of the Senate, and shall have, when in Committee of the Whole, a right to debate and vote on all questions; and when the Senate is equally divided to give the casting vote.
(c) In the case of the temporary inability or temporary disqualification of the Governor to serve, the impeachment of the Governor, or the absence of the Governor from the State, the Lieutenant Governor shall exercise the powers and authority appertaining to the office of Governor until the Governor becomes able or qualified to resume serving, is acquitted, or returns to the State.
(d) If the Governor refuses to serve or becomes permanently unable to serve, or if the office of Governor becomes vacant, the Lieutenant Governor becomes Governor for the remainder of the term being served by the Governor who refused or became unable to serve or vacated the office. On becoming Governor, the person vacates the office of Lieutenant Governor, and the resulting vacancy in the office of Lieutenant Governor shall be filled in the manner provided by Section 9, Article III, of this Constitution.
(Subsecs. (a), (b), and (c) amended and Subsec. (d) added Nov. 2, 1999.) (TEMPORARY TRANSITION PROVISIONS for Sec. 16: See Appendix, Note 1.)
Of course, whether Dewhurst CAN do this and whether he WOULD do this are two different questions. He has to weight the slim possibility that campus carry could pass in just ten days against the possibility that adding campus carry to the call could blow up the entire special session.
Everyone is focusing on Campus Carry, but the real reason for my post is SB16 relating to cities posting illegal signs. This bill should fly right thru both houses with little or no discussion as it would have passed without amendments the first time. Nothing controversial here. Since the Senate screwed it up, and dewhurst is in charge, he should fix it.
Re: SB16 Inspecial Session
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:41 pm
by Bladed
2firfun50 wrote:Bladed wrote:2firfun50 wrote:If I am reading the Texas Constitution correctly, Dewhurst could slide it onto the special session agenda when Perry goes off to smooze with the New Yorkers. Whether either of them has the stones remains to be seen.
I think you're right.
Sec. 8. CONVENING LEGISLATURE ON EXTRAORDINARY OCCASIONS. (a) The Governor may, on extraordinary occasions, convene the Legislature at the seat of Government, or at a different place, in case that should be in possession of the public enemy or in case of the prevalence of disease threat. His proclamation therefor shall state specifically the purpose for which the Legislature is convened.
(b) The Governor shall convene the Legislature in special session to appoint presidential electors if the Governor determines that a reasonable likelihood exists that a final determination of the appointment of electors will not occur before the deadline prescribed by law to ascertain a conclusive determination of the appointment. The Legislature may not consider any subject other than the appointment of electors at that special session.
(Amended Nov. 6, 2001.)
Sec. 16. LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR. (a) There shall also be a Lieutenant Governor, who shall be chosen at every election for Governor by the same voters, in the same manner, continue in office for the same time, and possess the same qualifications. The voters shall distinguish for whom they vote as Governor and for whom as Lieutenant Governor.
(b) The Lieutenant Governor shall by virtue of his office be President of the Senate, and shall have, when in Committee of the Whole, a right to debate and vote on all questions; and when the Senate is equally divided to give the casting vote.
(c) In the case of the temporary inability or temporary disqualification of the Governor to serve, the impeachment of the Governor, or the absence of the Governor from the State, the Lieutenant Governor shall exercise the powers and authority appertaining to the office of Governor until the Governor becomes able or qualified to resume serving, is acquitted, or returns to the State.
(d) If the Governor refuses to serve or becomes permanently unable to serve, or if the office of Governor becomes vacant, the Lieutenant Governor becomes Governor for the remainder of the term being served by the Governor who refused or became unable to serve or vacated the office. On becoming Governor, the person vacates the office of Lieutenant Governor, and the resulting vacancy in the office of Lieutenant Governor shall be filled in the manner provided by Section 9, Article III, of this Constitution.
(Subsecs. (a), (b), and (c) amended and Subsec. (d) added Nov. 2, 1999.) (TEMPORARY TRANSITION PROVISIONS for Sec. 16: See Appendix, Note 1.)
Of course, whether Dewhurst CAN do this and whether he WOULD do this are two different questions. He has to weight the slim possibility that campus carry could pass in just ten days against the possibility that adding campus carry to the call could blow up the entire special session.
Everyone is focusing on Campus Carry, but the real reason for my post is SB16 relating to cities posting illegal signs. This bill should fly right thru both houses with little or no discussion as it would have passed without amendments the first time. Nothing controversial here. Since the Senate screwed it up, and dewhurst is in charge, he should fix it.
Oh, sorry. Yes, I think SB 16 could pass in eight days. Adding it might even be a smart political move on Dewhurst's part, in that it would give him street cred with gun rights advocates.