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Texas Hazelwood Act for Classes

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 1:43 pm
by jl39775
A local community college in my area offers intermediate and advance defensive handgun courses. Does anyone know if the Hazelwood Act covers the cost for this type of training to Texas Veterans?

Re: Texas Hazelwood Act for Classes

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:47 pm
by Keith B
jl39775 wrote:A local community college in my area offers intermediate and advance defensive handgun courses. Does anyone know if the Hazelwood Act covers the cost for this type of training to Texas Veterans?
I doubt it. If a course is taught at a public institution other than a community college and the institution receives formula funding for such courses, the benefit applies. Fees for such courses at community colleges may be exempted; but, the community college board has the authorization to charge a “fee for extraordinary costs associated with a specific course or program. You would have to check with the individual college to see if they accept the the benefit for payment of a particular class.

Re: Texas Hazelwood Act for Classes

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:11 pm
by JJVP
superchief wrote:wow. what school is providing these courses?
Not sure to which college the OP was referring, but College of the Mainland in Texas City offers them. I took the intermediate defensive handgun class there a year ago.

http://www.com.edu/continuing-education ... PR2013.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(See pages 17-18)

Re: Texas Hazelwood Act for Classes

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:18 pm
by jl39775
JJVP wrote:
superchief wrote:wow. what school is providing these courses?
Not sure to which college the OP was referring, but College of the Mainland in Texas City offers them. I took the intermediate defensive handgun class there a year ago.

http://www.com.edu/continuing-education ... PR2013.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(See pages 17-18)
College of the Mainland is the college I was referring to. The school is a formula funded school. However, I'm not sure if all classes are covered by the Hazelwood Act. I will call and find out tomorrow and post my findings.

How was the class you took a year ago? I see they also have an advance course as well.

Re: Texas Hazelwood Act for Classes

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:47 pm
by n5wd
jl39775 wrote:A local community college in my area offers intermediate and advance defensive handgun courses. Does anyone know if the Hazelwood Act covers the cost for this type of training to Texas Veterans?
Unless the ( the state Legiscritters) have changed the Hazelwood Act, then no. When I went to update my Hazelwood status a few years ago, in preperation for maybe going for a Masters, Hazelwood funds could only be used for credit classes that were part of a recognized degree plan, as recognized/authorized by the Higher Ed Coordinating Board. No non-credit or continuing education classes.

Wayne

Re: Texas Hazelwood Act for Classes

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:30 pm
by JJVP
jl39775 wrote:
JJVP wrote:
superchief wrote:wow. what school is providing these courses?
Not sure to which college the OP was referring, but College of the Mainland in Texas City offers them. I took the intermediate defensive handgun class there a year ago.

http://www.com.edu/continuing-education ... PR2013.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(See pages 17-18)
College of the Mainland is the college I was referring to. The school is a formula funded school. However, I'm not sure if all classes are covered by the Hazelwood Act. I will call and find out tomorrow and post my findings.

How was the class you took a year ago? I see they also have an advance course as well.

It was pretty good. The teacher, Lem Powell is a former cop. Lots of good instruction and real life tidbits from his former life as a LEO. He also teaches police officer cadets. At the end of the class, he gave us the same shooting test given to police officer cadets. He mentioned that typical cadet takes the test 3-4 times before passing. I passed it on the first try, by a large margin. I believe one or two of my fellow classmates also passed it.

Two issues, I want to make you aware. If they don't have enough people for the class, they will cancel it and you'll have to reschedule for another semester. It happened to me. Showed up for the class and found several Gus waiting outside, all wearing T-shirts with some kind of LEO logo and all wearing tactical belts and blue guns. I went inside and Em informed me that the class had been cancelled and they should have notified me. They fail to. They had rescheduled a cadet training to make up.

The other issue, is that they'll issue you the ammo to be used at the class (frangible ammo). I believe it was Remington ammo ( green/yellow boxes). Twice we had cartridges get stuck in the barrel. One was a recessed bullet (on my gun) and another was a crimped casing on one of the other students gun. After that, I started inspecting every round before I loaded into the magazine. Found another crimped casing cartridge in oe of my ammo boxes. Make sure you inspect every round before you las it.

Other than that it was a good class and I recommend it.

Re: Texas Hazelwood Act for Classes

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:58 pm
by RX8er
Thank you for your service....

I am putting my oldest through school at TWU using my Hazelwood. It really was a simple process. A couple of forms to fill out and getting a clean copy of my DD214 and sent to the school is all it took.

I am sure you have looked but here are a couple of links:
http://www.tvc.texas.gov/Hazlewood-Act.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://collegeforalltexans.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

They appear to be a Public Institution so I would say they qualify. There could be finer rules in the Hazelwood about certain requirments needing to be met. I'd call an FA at the school and ask.

Re: Texas Hazelwood Act for Classes

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:52 pm
by jl39775
I've tried calling the VA Affairs office and I can't get through. I've left a few message without a return call. The spring semester is starting soon, so I'm sure they will be swamped for a while. I will post my findings once I hear from the VA Affair office.

It would be a blessing if the Hazelwood Act covers the classes. They have CHL, Safety, Intermediate Defense (12 hrs) and Advance Defense (16 hrs) classes.

Re: Texas Hazelwood Act for Classes

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:51 pm
by RX8er
jl39775 wrote:I've tried calling the VA Affairs office and I can't get through. I've left a few message without a return call. The spring semester is starting soon, so I'm sure they will be swamped for a while. I will post my findings once I hear from the VA Affair office.

It would be a blessing if the Hazelwood Act covers the classes. They have CHL, Safety, Intermediate Defense (12 hrs) and Advance Defense (16 hrs) classes.

IMO, You will get a much faster response using the financial aide office at the school. IIWM, I would call the Financial Adviser at the school and ask them if they accept the Hazelwood benefits. They will know if they do and can help from there.