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Anti-Gunners Claim Women should allow themselves to be raped....
Reading Armed by Gary Kleck for school and thought I'd share a few statements courtesy of our anti friends that suggest, imply, and outright decree that women should not protect themselves from rape and even murder...
"...feminist icon Betty Friedan to the trend of women buying firearms for defense against rape and murder. Friedan denounces this trend as a 'horrifying, obscene, perversion of feminism,' asserting 'that lethal violence even in self-defense only engenders more violence and that gun control should override any personal need for safety.'"
Reverend Allen Brockway "solemnly advises women that their Christian duty is to submit to rape rather than do anything that might imperil a rapist's life. Rhetorically posing the question as 'Is the Robber My Brother?'"
"Rev. Brockway seems to concede that a woman may shoot a rapist if she knows for a certainty that he will kill her. But another NCBH affiliate, the Presbyterian Church (USA), disagrees. Its official position is that handguns should be banned because a victim may not take an attacker's life under any circumstance, even if she knows he will kill her after the rape."
There you have it folks, all of that within 4 pages. And they say we're the crazy ones?
"...feminist icon Betty Friedan to the trend of women buying firearms for defense against rape and murder. Friedan denounces this trend as a 'horrifying, obscene, perversion of feminism,' asserting 'that lethal violence even in self-defense only engenders more violence and that gun control should override any personal need for safety.'"
Reverend Allen Brockway "solemnly advises women that their Christian duty is to submit to rape rather than do anything that might imperil a rapist's life. Rhetorically posing the question as 'Is the Robber My Brother?'"
"Rev. Brockway seems to concede that a woman may shoot a rapist if she knows for a certainty that he will kill her. But another NCBH affiliate, the Presbyterian Church (USA), disagrees. Its official position is that handguns should be banned because a victim may not take an attacker's life under any circumstance, even if she knows he will kill her after the rape."
There you have it folks, all of that within 4 pages. And they say we're the crazy ones?
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The last time this was brought up, the person (Clayton Williams 1990) was run out of the gubernatorial election on a rail and the same should happen here!!!
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As a husband and father with daughters, it makes me fume to consider that these maggots live and breathe the same air as we do.
But then I remember that God is in control. That, and Mr. Gaston's invention that rides with us everywhere.
But then I remember that God is in control. That, and Mr. Gaston's invention that rides with us everywhere.
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He made an ill-advised joke in what he thought was a private setting. These people are serious.JerryK wrote:The last time this was brought up, the person (Clayton Williams 1990) was run out of the gubernatorial election on a rail and the same should happen here!!!
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It's hard to imagine anyone saying a woman should not be able to defend herself for any reason but especially rape. I've recommended Paxton Quigley's book, "Armed and Female" to many woman because the author didn't think she needed a gun until she was mugged. Then the light went on and she became an advocate of appropriate self-defense measures - being armed.
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The book itself is written from a very neutral perspective but this section made me want to hurl it across the room. I was so frustrated. Especially from my perspective as a Psychology major and the rates of PTSD associated with rape victims. These people are not just suggesting that women be victimized once but for many of them over and over again for the rest of their lives. It's completely incogitable.parabelum wrote:As a husband and father with daughters, it makes me fume to consider that these maggots live and breathe the same air as we do.
But then I remember that God is in control. That, and Mr. Gaston's invention that rides with us everywhere.
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Good point. What a deranged fool.AndyC wrote:Wonder if the good Rev would feel the same way if HE were the one about to be brutally raped....TexasTornado wrote:Reverend Allen Brockway "solemnly advises women that their Christian duty is to submit to rape rather than do anything that might imperil a rapist's life. Rhetorically posing the question as 'Is the Robber My Brother?'"
"Rev. Brockway seems to concede that a woman may shoot a rapist if she knows for a certainty that he will kill her.
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John Lott /The War On Guns is an excellent read and debunks all the Anti-gun arguments in a rational and logical fashion.
Basically liberals don't believe this nonsense should apply to them...just you. Thank you sir, may I have another?
Basically liberals don't believe this nonsense should apply to them...just you. Thank you sir, may I have another?
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parabelum wrote:Good point. What a deranged fool.AndyC wrote:Wonder if the good Rev would feel the same way if HE were the one about to be brutally raped....TexasTornado wrote:Reverend Allen Brockway "solemnly advises women that their Christian duty is to submit to rape rather than do anything that might imperil a rapist's life. Rhetorically posing the question as 'Is the Robber My Brother?'"
"Rev. Brockway seems to concede that a woman may shoot a rapist if she knows for a certainty that he will kill her.
*biting my tongue really really hard on this one*
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There is nothing 'off the record' when you are running for public office!!!He made an ill-advised joke in what he thought was a private setting. These people are serious.
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When testimony was being given before the Senate Committee on State Affairs for SB11 and SB17, Austin's Police Chief Art Acevedo testified that it would be preferable for a woman to submit to rape and then avail herself of the victim services offered by UT and APD rather than defend herself. To hear it in context from the Chief's mouth, watch here, starting at 4:23
The senator who leads the question is Senator Rodney Ellis D-Houston who obviously thinks the same way as the Chief.
The senator who leads the question is Senator Rodney Ellis D-Houston who obviously thinks the same way as the Chief.
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I suspect neither Friedan nor Brockway are in danger of being raped.TexasTornado wrote:Reading Armed by Gary Kleck for school and thought I'd share a few statements courtesy of our anti friends that suggest, imply, and outright decree that women should not protect themselves from rape and even murder...
"...feminist icon Betty Friedan to the trend of women buying firearms for defense against rape and murder. Friedan denounces this trend as a 'horrifying, obscene, perversion of feminism,' asserting 'that lethal violence even in self-defense only engenders more violence and that gun control should override any personal need for safety.'"
Reverend Allen Brockway "solemnly advises women that their Christian duty is to submit to rape rather than do anything that might imperil a rapist's life. Rhetorically posing the question as 'Is the Robber My Brother?'"
"Rev. Brockway seems to concede that a woman may shoot a rapist if she knows for a certainty that he will kill her. But another NCBH affiliate, the Presbyterian Church (USA), disagrees. Its official position is that handguns should be banned because a victim may not take an attacker's life under any circumstance, even if she knows he will kill her after the rape."
There you have it folks, all of that within 4 pages. And they say we're the crazy ones?
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Re: Anti-Gunners Claim Women should allow themselves to be raped....
It's amazing to me that anyone could even think like that.TexasTornado wrote:Reading Armed by Gary Kleck for school and thought I'd share a few statements courtesy of our anti friends that suggest, imply, and outright decree that women should not protect themselves from rape and even murder...
"...feminist icon Betty Friedan to the trend of women buying firearms for defense against rape and murder. Friedan denounces this trend as a 'horrifying, obscene, perversion of feminism,' asserting 'that lethal violence even in self-defense only engenders more violence and that gun control should override any personal need for safety.'"
Reverend Allen Brockway "solemnly advises women that their Christian duty is to submit to rape rather than do anything that might imperil a rapist's life. Rhetorically posing the question as 'Is the Robber My Brother?'"
"Rev. Brockway seems to concede that a woman may shoot a rapist if she knows for a certainty that he will kill her. But another NCBH affiliate, the Presbyterian Church (USA), disagrees. Its official position is that handguns should be banned because a victim may not take an attacker's life under any circumstance, even if she knows he will kill her after the rape."
There you have it folks, all of that within 4 pages. And they say we're the crazy ones?
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