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Re: Carrying a gun in Israel
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 1:44 pm
by Grayling813
bbhack wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:38 pm
If ANY country in the world needed a 99% firearm owner rate, other than the US, it would be Israel. What the heck?
Agreed. In a country surrounded by other countries who have explicitly stated their desire is to wipe your country from the map, why would the government not want every Israeli citizen armed? The only reason I can think of is their fear that along with Israeli Jews, Christians and agnostics they would also be arming Israeli Muslims. Which is irrational at best.
Re: Carrying a gun in Israel
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 2:01 pm
by philip964
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news ... o-newtowns
US should emulate Israel's strict gun control laws ( after Newtown mass shooting).
Lots of articles praising Israel strict gun control laws on line. I could not find anything about gun laws in the '70's in Israel. I think it changed over time. I feel it was not strict at all back then, and that Israeli men and women carried and were excellent shooters, but I cannot find anything to back up my memory.
From Times of Israel:
“Approximately three years ago, the IDF began taking away firearms from some of these security teams due to the repeated theft of such weapons.
Hebrew news outlets reported on the problem back in 2021, and members of some of the teams have told the media in the last few days that they were essentially unarmed during Hamas’s invasion.
Members of such a team told the Calcalist newspaper on Sunday that they had engaged Hamas terrorists armed with just pistols, while the terrorists bore assault rifles, grenades and anti-tank missiles.
“The IDF took our rifles recently, they left us with just a few. We repelled a Hamas commando terror cell with just pistols,” one said.”
Brave men. Plus I assume they only had 50 rounds each.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... Hamas.html
Meet the 25 yo woman who saved her kibbutz. Killed 5 terrorists in her own. Her security team killed another 20.
Re: Carrying a gun in Israel
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:26 pm
by Redneck_Buddha
RoyGBiv wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:55 am
Redneck_Buddha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 8:03 pm
Unfortunately, Kibbutz Be'eri voted amongst the members to be a gun free zone, which is frankly unfathomable when you are that close to that many thousands of people who would love to see you dead.
Do you have a source for this? I was not able to locate one.. Would be appreciated.
I do, but he is a tour guide living in Makhtesh Ramon, not a news source.
Re: Carrying a gun in Israel
Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:22 am
by RoyGBiv
Former PM Naftali Bennett on arming the citizenry.
Translated from Hebrew by
Give guns to the settlements, immediately.
I try not to make public demands to the government but only through quiet channels, but this issue is essential to saving lives and unfortunately I can hardly move:
The Israeli government must immediately equip every locality and every neighborhood in Israel with long weapons and small arms so that standby units can fight.
I fear attacks from less expected directions. It can be in Kochav Yair, Meshgav or Rabavid.
We have citizens who were regular fighters, brave and ready to fight, but without weapons and ammunition they cannot.
Prioritize, of course, fence-adjacent settlements in the north and south, settlements adjacent to the separation fence for the Jewish Community, the Jewish Community communities themselves, communities in the Galilee, and more.
Here's a fact you should know:
Those who actually fought and repelled the enemy in the settlements were *the standby classes *.
In some cases with complete success: Nir Am, Alumim, Saad, Mefalsim and more, in some unfortunately the standby squad fought and fell in battle (Kfar Gaza, Bari and more).
The residents of the settlement are the ones who stopped with their own hands. bravely
IDF forces arrived much later. Sometimes at 12:30 sometimes at 14:30 (the attack started at 6:30 in the morning).
There is no more successful, experienced force that knows the settlement better than the residents themselves.
Give us guns, today.
Re: Carrying a gun in Israel
Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:27 pm
by philip964
https://amgreatness.com/2023/10/11/hama ... for-jihad/
Global day of rage on Friday the 13th called by Hamas leader.
Friday the 13 th was when the Pope had all the Templar Knights killed. Not really a Catholic holy day.
Re: Carrying a gun in Israel
Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 12:08 am
by philip964
https://news.yahoo.com/israeli-festival ... 48238.html
And understand this is the Rolling Stone reporting this.
https://news.sky.com/story/israel-gaza- ... d-12985212
How Victims were murdered depended on the situation and location and how much time the killers had.
October 30, 2023
https://nypost.com/2023/10/30/news/shan ... -dead/amp/
German young woman at music festival that was paraded through Gaza, was found beheaded. Not sure if this was the woman who was in the back of the pick up truck naked.
November 11, 2023
Re: Carrying a gun in Israel
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 4:14 pm
by philip964
Re: Carrying a gun in Israel
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:59 pm
by Paladin
The Israeli government received 255,000 gun license applications after the Oct. 7. attack.
Yep.
Polls show 75 percent of Israelis calling for {Netanyahu} to resign now or be replaced when the fighting stops. They know that the government isn't going to protect them.
Re: Carrying a gun in Israel
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 9:26 pm
by Chemist45
Paladin wrote
They know that the government isn't going to protect them.
The Israelis had their noses rubbed in the fact that the government won't / can't protect them.
Very sad it came to this, but very glad to see the average citizen stepping up to defend themselves and their neighbors.
Re: Carrying a gun in Israel
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:29 pm
by philip964
Kirby unsure of ‘dollar figure’ of US funding to controversial UN agency allegedly tied to Hamas attack
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kirby- ... mas-attack
So UN employees took part in Hamas surprise attack on Israeli civilians. We helped pay for it.