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Carrying a gun in Israel

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:08 pm
by VMI77
http://doubletapper.blogspot.com/search ... y%20permit

Interesting gun blog from Israel. Note the photos of armed civilians in public.

From the blog:

Here in Israel, where weapons permits are issued to those that need them, and are limited to a single weapon per person, there is no such thing as concealed carry.

Or open carry.

Weapons permits for private citizens are granted as Carry Permits.

So you can chose based on fashion, comfort, tactics, or personal preference how you want to carry your weapon. As long as you have your valid Carry Permit and ID on your person, you can legally carry just about anywhere in the country.

I've carried my pistol openly in government offices, military installations, malls, supermarkets, sports arenas, and synagogues. I've even been to political functions and open carried with our current Prime Minister in the room.



Edited to add:

From the same blog, here's the kind of article you won't see our MSM.....and something the antis claim is impossible anyway:
Armed civilians kill terrorist in Jerusalem

An Arab Terrorist armed with a Kalashnikov Rifle and a bomb vest infiltrated the Merkaz HaRav Yeshiva library tonight at 20:40, and opened automatic fire in all directions at the scores of rabbinical students there. After several minutes, 40-year-old Rabbi Yitzchak Dadon, shot the attacker in the head with his personal weapon. David Shapira, a graduate, heard the shots from his nearby home, ran to the yeshiva and "finished [the terrorist] off."

The Terrorist was resident of the south Jerusalem suburb and was an Israeli citizen. His bomb vest did not detonate.

Once again armed civilians managed to prevent a terrorist from killing many more.

Schools should always allow legally armed civilians on campus to act as a deterrent and to protect the unarmed.

Current reports, six dead, more injured, and a tragedy was prevented.

Re: Carrying a gun in Israel

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:04 pm
by JJVP
Note the photos of armed civilians in public.
I like this photo better.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/bikini- ... -1.1113980" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Carrying a gun in Israel

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:07 pm
by snatchel
Israel gets it....

Re: Carrying a gun in Israel

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:28 pm
by RoyGBiv
VMI77 wrote:Schools should always allow legally armed civilians on campus to act as a deterrent and to protect the unarmed.
:hurry: :patriot:

Re: Carrying a gun in Israel

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:23 pm
by Heartland Patriot
snatchel wrote:Israel gets it....
The thing with Israel is they HAVE to get it...or they might "get it"... :shock:

Re: Carrying a gun in Israel

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:35 pm
by {TEX}Hawaii 99
Those photos are totally legit. I visited Israel some time ago and girls up and down the beach with M16s and the like.

Re: Carrying a gun in Israel

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:42 am
by Charles L. Cotton
Israeli gun laws have taken a dramatic turn for the worst in the last several years. I recently read an article about Israel tightening the eligibility requirements for obtaining a permit. It specifically mentioned that diamond brokers (or perhaps it was jewelers) once were automatically entitled to a permit, but no longer. The article mentioned a concerted effort by the Israeli government to reduce the number of people who could own/carry weapons. I was stunned to say the least.

In the mid 1970's, I wanted to visit Israel, but my wife was afraid to go because of terrorist attacks and we had two small kids. I talked to the Israeli consul about Americans carrying handguns and the response was "sure you can, you're an American!" I made the same call around 1995 or so and you would have thought I was asking to bring a nuke into the country. I was asked why I wanted a gun and when I said for the same reason every Israeli carries a gun, she responded "not anymore they don't."

Don't take my comments as being the list bit anti-Israel. I love that country and I'd expend every round of ammo and every nuke the U.S. has to defend Israel. But I'm dismayed to see such a dramatic and detrimental turn on the gun control issue.

Chas.

Re: Carrying a gun in Israel

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:24 am
by RoyGBiv
Charles L. Cotton wrote:I'm dismayed to see such a dramatic and detrimental turn on the gun control issue.

Chas.
Democracy's fatal flaw.... The sheep-minded outnumber the sheepdog-minded.
Eventually the sheep-minded are lulled into a false sense of security, and the majority become willing to "give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary (perceived) safety"

Re: Carrying a gun in Israel

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:52 pm
by tool4daman
I am currently in Israel on business, and am yet to see what I would term a "civilian" openly carrying. I've seen many soldiers and security (both male and female) carrying, but never what appears to be a person not employed in some type of official defense. I've been here two weeks on this trip, and was here four months earlier this year. That is not to say that I have not come across any that carry concealed.

I have discussed the fact that I carry a firearm (when in the United States) with many of my Israeli colleagues and friends. Funny thing is that most of my Israeli friends who have moved to the U.S. carry as well, but most of my Israeli friends who live here in Israel are very surprised that we feel the need/desire to carry in the U.S. Of all the people I know/work with/have discussed this with here in Tel Aviv, I have only met one person who has a license. SHE was issued a license when she was in the IL army about 15 years ago, and has maintained her license ever since. She does not carry on her person; she keeps her pistol at home. She lives in a sub-burb just north of Tel Aviv, and works in another sub-burb just north of Tel Aviv.

I was also told by several friends here that it is in fact difficult to get a carry permit, unless you are an Israeli citzen who lives near a Palestinian controlled area.

Re: Carrying a gun in Israel

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:03 pm
by RHenriksen
What a shame
tool4daman wrote:I was also told by several friends here that it is in fact difficult to get a carry permit, unless you are an Israeli citzen who lives near a Palestinian controlled area.

Re: Carrying a gun in Israel

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:32 pm
by VMI77
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Israeli gun laws have taken a dramatic turn for the worst in the last several years. I recently read an article about Israel tightening the eligibility requirements for obtaining a permit. It specifically mentioned that diamond brokers (or perhaps it was jewelers) once were automatically entitled to a permit, but no longer. The article mentioned a concerted effort by the Israeli government to reduce the number of people who could own/carry weapons. I was stunned to say the least.

In the mid 1970's, I wanted to visit Israel, but my wife was afraid to go because of terrorist attacks and we had two small kids. I talked to the Israeli consul about Americans carrying handguns and the response was "sure you can, you're an American!" I made the same call around 1995 or so and you would have thought I was asking to bring a nuke into the country. I was asked why I wanted a gun and when I said for the same reason every Israeli carries a gun, she responded "not anymore they don't."

Don't take my comments as being the list bit anti-Israel. I love that country and I'd expend every round of ammo and every nuke the U.S. has to defend Israel. But I'm dismayed to see such a dramatic and detrimental turn on the gun control issue.

Chas.

The collectivists have infected just about every country on the planet.

Re: Carrying a gun in Israel

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:19 pm
by bnc
Israeli gun permit requirements from 2002, courtesy of the JPFO.

http://jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/israel-firearms.htm

Re: Carrying a gun in Israel

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:30 pm
by nyj
The more you know...

Very cool. Never knew any of this, and the pictures were awesome.

Re: Carrying a gun in Israel

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:57 pm
by philip964
JJVP wrote:
Note the photos of armed civilians in public.
I like this photo better.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/bikini- ... -1.1113980" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'd hit the like button, so this will have to do.

Re: Carrying a gun in Israel

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:05 pm
by Skiprr
tool4daman wrote:I am currently in Israel on business, and am yet to see what I would term a "civilian" openly carrying. I've seen many soldiers and security (both male and female) carrying, but never what appears to be a person not employed in some type of official defense. I've been here two weeks on this trip, and was here four months earlier this year. That is not to say that I have not come across any that carry concealed.
Thanks for the firsthand account.

I also, naively, thought that Israel remained another bastion of personal rights to firearms. Since WWII--a relatively short period, historically speaking--we've seen societies previously imbued in firearm culture turn into capitulating, defenseless drones. Think Canada, Australia, England.

All the more reason we need to be, as the NRA tagline says, "ALL IN."