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Re: What to do- Bull on property

Postby rotor » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:58 pm

J.R.@A&M wrote:By coincidence, a lawyer colleague of mine who works for Texas A&M AgriLife posted a blog entry about this subject: http://agrilife.org/texasaglaw/2016/10/24/questions-tiffanys-desk-stray-livestock-rules/

The answer sounds like it could have come from an economist, i.e., it depends.

Edited to note that this blog entry appears to be an update to the one Pawpaw linked to above.

That is super helpful. Thank you.

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Re: What to do- Bull on property

Postby puma guy » Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:59 pm

rotor wrote:
J.R.@A&M wrote:By coincidence, a lawyer colleague of mine who works for Texas A&M AgriLife posted a blog entry about this subject: http://agrilife.org/texasaglaw/2016/10/24/questions-tiffanys-desk-stray-livestock-rules/

The answer sounds like it could have come from an economist, i.e., it depends.

Edited to note that this blog entry appears to be an update to the one Pawpaw linked to above.

That is super helpful. Thank you.

I haven't kept up with the entire thread and this question may have been answered. id you find out who owns the bull and how enters your property? I just wondered if there are any gates in the fence/s between you and your neighbor/s that can be opened to allow access to your property? Can you say free feed? :lol:
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Re: What to do- Bull on property

Postby rotor » Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:47 pm

puma guy wrote:
rotor wrote:
J.R.@A&M wrote:By coincidence, a lawyer colleague of mine who works for Texas A&M AgriLife posted a blog entry about this subject: http://agrilife.org/texasaglaw/2016/10/24/questions-tiffanys-desk-stray-livestock-rules/

The answer sounds like it could have come from an economist, i.e., it depends.

Edited to note that this blog entry appears to be an update to the one Pawpaw linked to above.

That is super helpful. Thank you.

I haven't kept up with the entire thread and this question may have been answered. id you find out who owns the bull and how enters your property? I just wondered if there are any gates in the fence/s between you and your neighbor/s that can be opened to allow access to your property? Can you say free feed? :lol:

No gates between neighbors. None of the neighbors on 3 sides claimed him and for now I haven't seen him again but I don't go out every day. I am assuming he is jumping the fence. If I see him I am calling the Sheriff.

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Re: What to do- Bull on property

Postby drjoker » Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:02 pm

The bull should be branded. The brand should let you know who is the owner. If he is not tagged nor branded then... FREE HAMBURGER!

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Re: What to do- Bull on property

Postby RogueUSMC » Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:13 am

drjoker wrote:The bull should be branded. The brand should let you know who is the owner. If he is not tagged nor branded then... FREE HAMBURGER!

Hanging is still the penalty for cattle rustlin'...
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Re: What to do- Bull on property

Postby WildBill » Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:02 pm

RogueUSMC wrote:
drjoker wrote:The bull should be branded. The brand should let you know who is the owner. If he is not tagged nor branded then... FREE HAMBURGER!

Hanging is still the penalty for cattle rustlin'...

I thought that was only for horse thieves.
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Re: What to do- Bull on property

Postby mloamiller » Thu Oct 27, 2016 2:53 pm

RogueUSMC wrote:
drjoker wrote:The bull should be branded. The brand should let you know who is the owner. If he is not tagged nor branded then... FREE HAMBURGER!

Hanging is still the penalty for cattle rustlin'...


Is it rustlin' if it isn't branded or tagged?
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Re: What to do- Bull on property

Postby RogueUSMC » Fri Oct 28, 2016 6:23 am

WildBill wrote:
RogueUSMC wrote:
drjoker wrote:The bull should be branded. The brand should let you know who is the owner. If he is not tagged nor branded then... FREE HAMBURGER!

Hanging is still the penalty for cattle rustlin'...

I thought that was only for horse thieves.

The whole 'wire cutters in your saddlebags' covers the rustling I think. When was the last time someone was charged with it though?
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Re: What to do- Bull on property

Postby Lynyrd » Fri Oct 28, 2016 6:55 am

mloamiller wrote:
RogueUSMC wrote:
drjoker wrote:The bull should be branded. The brand should let you know who is the owner. If he is not tagged nor branded then... FREE HAMBURGER!

Hanging is still the penalty for cattle rustlin'...


Is it rustlin' if it isn't branded or tagged?


Brand or tag matters not to whether or not it is theft. Just makes it easier to prove.
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Re: What to do- Bull on property

Postby Jusme » Fri Oct 28, 2016 7:37 am

RogueUSMC wrote:
WildBill wrote:
RogueUSMC wrote:
drjoker wrote:The bull should be branded. The brand should let you know who is the owner. If he is not tagged nor branded then... FREE HAMBURGER!

Hanging is still the penalty for cattle rustlin'...

I thought that was only for horse thieves.

The whole 'wire cutters in your saddlebags' covers the rustling I think. When was the last time someone was charged with it though?



While I don't think anyone has been "strung up" for rustling for a few years, it is still a serious offense, and is aggressively prosecuted. The Texas Cattle Raisers Association, will do everything they can to see that rustlers are given the maximum sentences. I have an Ex-BIL who spent about 3 years as a ward of the State, after "misappropriating" a few calves. :banghead:
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Re: What to do- Bull on property

Postby KD5NRH » Fri Oct 28, 2016 8:00 am

Jusme wrote:While I don't think anyone has been "strung up" for rustling for a few years, it is still a serious offense, and is aggressively prosecuted. The Texas Cattle Raisers Association, will do everything they can to see that rustlers are given the maximum sentences.


There you go; box it up, mail it to TSCRA postage due and let them figure out where it goes. If they want special privileges, they need to accept the responsibilities that go with them.


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Re: What to do- Bull on property

Postby rotor » Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:13 am

I guess it is time to lock the post. Call the Sheriff is the answer. It is not legal to "keep" the animal. Thank you all for the suggestions. I learned a lot.

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Re: What to do- Bull on property

Postby bigtek » Sat Oct 29, 2016 11:04 am

KD5NRH wrote:There you go; box it up, mail it to TSCRA postage due and let them figure out where it goes. If they want special privileges, they need to accept the responsibilities that go with them.

It seems much easier to encourage the interloper to leave my property. If it goes through a fence to a neighbor, I'll fix the fence. If it goes out the gate into the road, I'll close the gate. Either way it's not my problem any more and the Cattle Rustlers Association can deal with it unless the Sheriff beats them to the punch
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Re: What to do- Bull on property

Postby Liberty » Sat Oct 29, 2016 12:02 pm

It doesn;'t seem right that a 200lb human can be penalized for trespassing, yet there is no penalty for letting a 2,000lb bull wander wherever .. Seems like the owner should be forced to pay grazing fees, rent, clean up something?
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Re: What to do- Bull on property

Postby Lambda Force » Sat Oct 29, 2016 5:11 pm

That's a good point Liberty. It seems the owner should have to pay at least as much as the owner of a car that's towed.
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