The 1911 plunge

[flechero]

Not trying to steal anyone's thread but I too am in thee market for a 1911. But I have it narrowed Down to a STI LAWMAN or a KIMBER SUPER CARRY CUSTOM HD.

I have held and shot the kimber but have yet to hold
Touch or shot a STI.

Maybe there is someone around the DFW area that
Can let me shoot there's?


I am not willing to spends $1200+ on a gun I have not ever touched.

I have owned several Kimbers and still have a Ultra CDP II... and currently own an STI Guardian... I'm just down the road from STI so I've handled all of them (including the Lawman series) several times. I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that those to guns are not in the same league. when I FINALLY got the STI I was so mad that I hadn't bought one years earlier!

Don't get me wrong, the Kimbers are good guns... but when looking honestly in the mirror, the STI's are truly in a different class. I don't shoot the Kimber anymore.

ETA: Not sure what you want it for so the Kimber may be the perfect gun.... not trying to talk you out of it,or into the STI. I just know that many people (before they ever handle higher end guns) have trouble justifying them.

[Pawpaw]

In your price range, don't overlook Rock Island Armory pistols, imported from the Philippines by Armscor.

They're very well made and include a lifetime warranty.

Do they still use odd-sized front-sight dovetails?

That I do not know. Mine have staked front sights. On the compact, I had the sights replaced with Trijicon night sights. Easy as can be. (Of course, I had someone else do the work for me. )

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/35757 ... tium-green

[The Annoyed Man]

In your price range, don't overlook Rock Island Armory pistols, imported from the Philippines by Armscor.

They're very well made and include a lifetime warranty.

Do they still use odd-sized front-sight dovetails?

That I do not know. Mine have staked front sights. On the compact, I had the sights replaced with Trijicon night sights. Easy as can be. (Of course, I had someone else do the work for me.

I just remember AndyC having the devil's own time to try and get a new front sight to fit the dovetail on his RIA. I believe he was ultimately successful, but it was more involved than just a casual sight swap.

[Pawpaw]

In your price range, don't overlook Rock Island Armory pistols, imported from the Philippines by Armscor.

They're very well made and include a lifetime warranty.

Do they still use odd-sized front-sight dovetails?

That I do not know. Mine have staked front sights. On the compact, I had the sights replaced with Trijicon night sights. Easy as can be. (Of course, I had someone else do the work for me.

I just remember AndyC having the devil's own time to try and get a new front sight to fit the dovetail on his RIA. I believe he was ultimately successful, but it was more involved than just a casual sight swap.

I remember. Advanced Tactical (where RIA firearms go for warranty work) now sells the tactical sights. Judging by the prices, I'm sure they're not night sights.

https://advancedtactical.com/products/p ... 11-sights/

EDIT: I take that back. The site says they ARE night sights.

[Bitter Clinger]

If you are gonna have one, why not one of these?

[cheezit]

If you are gonna have one, why not one of these?

There earlier ones had a much nicer bevertail and a few other changes.
Extremely reliable on a 3" barrel

[WTR]

If you are gonna have one, why not one of these?

Show off.

[rentz]

if i remember right, the lower end STI was actually made by armscor (to sti specs) and assembled by STI

[Pawpaw]

if i remember right, the lower end STI was actually made by armscor (to sti specs) and assembled by STI

Yes, Armscor provided the frame & slide for the Spartan.

[glbedd53]

Did Kimber ever get their quality control and customer service problems corrected? They look great in the store but all the horror stories have me scared of em.

[1911 10MM]

Did Kimber ever get their quality control and customer service problems corrected? They look great in the store but all the horror stories have me scared of em.

I have heard those same stories but I just purchased a Kimber Ultra Raptor .45 3" about a month ago and it has been 100% reliable with Hollow points and FMJ. It is unbelievable accurate! The Raptor series comes out of the Kimber Custom Shop and to be honest I don't know if that makes a difference.

[ghostrider]

Yep - it's so close, it's irritating; they could have just done it right first time around. I had to get a friend to mill 10-thou off the top of the slide, but it would have worked with 5-thou:

which model was that, Andy?

I put a dovetail front sight on & didn't have that problem (CS model), but it may have originally been staked rather than improperly dovetailed.

[Beiruty]

Is it worth the extra money? It is the buyer who will decide...

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/670422471

[cheezit]

I like the early style colt defender look a little better. This one also sports colt custom shop porting Picked this one up not long ago previous owner left the idiot mark.