Buh-Bye Optics Planet

[puma guy]

I stopped using them due to their "backordered" after you order it nonsense.

I don't think they're anti-2A muppets like Dick's or CTD, but I don't bother ordering from them any more for the same reason as you.

Dick's just changed their MO after the anti-black weapon rhetoric began. They sell them in their Field and Stream sections of many locations.

[puma guy]

Roy, Magpul did it.

Sure. And Bravo for them.
I packed up and left New England in 1986. Left all my friends and family and made a life for myself in Free America.

If Texas were to turn blue, how many would choose to stay because they have deep roots here? Why would anyone criticize a company that chooses to stay rooted in a difficult location? It's completely counterproductive.

Optics Planet employs 300 people and is recognized as an outstanding business. Just some info.

[puma guy]

Many times companies move with the 'proviso' they'll pay to help employees move with them. They too could do this rather than stating words that add up to: "Hey, it's not our fault we operate in a socialist type (read corrupt) state." They've chosen to stay.

Staying in a state of political corruption only helps the economy of that state.

Until they move, I won't be buying from anymore.

What if the owners themselves have roots they don't want to move?
It's simply the wrong thing to do to penalize a company for existing in a location that leans anti-gun.

How far do you take this personal choice? And how seriously do you take it?
Do you do business with any companies in California? Do you own an HP printer, an Apple iPhone?
How about these companies that are all based in Silicon Valley LINK? Do you own any of their stuff? Do you shop in their Texas retail locations?

How gun-unfriendly does the location have to be to qualify for your boycott?
Do you ever visit Austin? Would you do business with a company based in Austin?

I stopped doing business with CTD due to that companys' behavior (price gouging, IMO). The notion that we should stop doing business with an otherwise gun-friendly business that has limits imposed on them by their chosen location and decides not to relocate (for whatever reason) is simply ridiculous.

Come on... Seriously. I'll make this my last comment in this thread...

[dino9832]

I'm really starting to question why I, or anyone else, has need for a 30 round magazine for hunting, target shooting or home protection?

Thirty round "magazines" are an evil plot to promote ammunition sales!
I keep telling myself I'm only going to shoot X number of rounds. Then suddenly it's "Ooops!" as the slide locks back.
Granted, it's easier than carrying a bunch of rounds in my pocket.

...Not trying to be a jerk but it’s correctly designated as a magazine unless you’re Shooting something I’ve never seen (which could be very possible) .

No problem mrvmax! I sometimes need a reminder on proper terminology, and I do appreciate the input.
Gun = (pistol/rife), firearms.
Clip = magazine.
Sometimes these things slip my mind. Which ironically, everyone talks about gun violence, gun control, etc..
I wouldn't exactly call getting hosed by a Super Soaker squirt gun a violent act!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun

A gun is a tubular ranged weapon typically designed to pneumatically discharge projectiles[1] that are solid (most guns) but can also be liquid (as in water guns/cannons and projected water disruptors) or even charged particles (as in a plasma gun) and may be free-flying (as with bullets and artillery shells) or tethered (as with Taser guns, spearguns and harpoon guns).

[BBYC]

I buy/spend where I choose.

From now on I'll be on the lookout for the state I'm buying from.

If I discover I'm buying from a blue state I'll go elsewhere.

My money - My choice

That's why I avoid online places with operations in Texas. Damned sales tax! I don't know why our laws are set to put Texan sellers at a disadvantage.

Buying from Texan sellers saves me time and paperwork, because I'm legally required to pay Texas taxes either way.
https://comptroller.texas.gov/forms/01-156.pdf

Is forum rule #4 is still in effect?

[Abraham]

When it's necessary to move...move.

My family (mostly - certainly not me) decided not to move to improve their financial welfare when they had a chance to improve their lives.

Golly gee, heck, our cousins and friends will get left behind and our fragile emotional status can't bear that. Ah, ok, then suffer the consequences weenies...

Now for the most part, they're all broke and some on welfare. Job opportunities are less than adequate, but they have the plus of their family and friends who're equally broke...my attitude toward them? Go to hades....

Just can't go along with moving?

Fine, live with zero dignity.

Others, stronger, move with the times.

Kinda like the rest of the world who cares to improve.

[Oldgringo]

When it's necessary to move...move.

Mrs. Oldgringo and I have been a team for almost three dozen years. In that time, we've lived in one dozen different towns; however, the during past two dozen years, our roots have been here in the Pineywoods.

When you gotta' go, you gotta' go......

[MechAg94]

I can deal with a company staying in a gun unfriendly state providing they are gun rights supporters and supporting the effort to change the law. Not everyone wants to move or can move. I am not going to slam them just for that. A lot of people are upset with Springfield Armory and Rock River. They violated that by going for the legal carve out just for them. If Springfield Armory moved out of Illinois tomorrow, it wouldn't change what their leadership tried to do.

It sounds like Optics Planet never sold 30 round mags in the first place so I don't see any issue.

[Abraham]

Actually, in America we CAN all move, but what some can't tolerate is the sacrifice it takes.

Loss of loved ones, old friends, financial sacrifice and on and on.

I've lived all over the world. Talk about a loss of loved ones and friends...Try living in another country...

Some simply, just can't stand the emotional loss of moving and would rather live in poverty.

Fine, but don't ask me to pay for your unwillingness to improve your life situation by moving.

Why would I say this?

Because 'the bite' has been put on me,...more than once 'to help'.

Not willing to improve your life situation by moving, but plead for me to help - no.

I made the sacrifice...if you're not willing, live with the consequences...

Am I a hard case so and so...you bet. I hitchhiked around the country for years, slept under bridges, cemeteries, old trees, abandoned cars, Salvation Army transient lodges and rescue missions, worked in low rent restaurants, carnivals, ranches and dairy farms. Until finally I had a chance to finish high school (at my own insistence) working 40 plus hours a week after school in a grocery store. I finished high school with an academic scholarship (that weirdly I didn't apply for....) to attend any school that'd accept me. They all did...

Those are the high lights..

When people tell me, 'WE' can't move, all I can do is shake my head...

This approach isn't something I offer to my Texas born Daughter and Grand Girls. They get lots of help from Grandpa and don't even realize they'll be fabulously wealthy once me and Grandmaw kick off...