Failure to conceal, public intoxication
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Failure to conceal, public intoxication
Texas City, Jan. 21 -- A man buying merchandise at a check-cashing business in Texas City accidentally failed to conceal his handgun. Police were called. The man had a CHL but was charged with public intoxication "because [police] suspect he was high on prescripton medication."
http://news.galvestondailynews.com/stor ... 626e051b58
I can feel for the guy. I'm lying low right now because I have a bad cold (the first in several years) and find myself doing dopey things.
I can also see where people who work in a check-cashing store might have a hightened state of alertness. This area, 20th & Texas Avenue, is not exactly a high-rent district.
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http://news.galvestondailynews.com/stor ... 626e051b58
I can feel for the guy. I'm lying low right now because I have a bad cold (the first in several years) and find myself doing dopey things.
I can also see where people who work in a check-cashing store might have a hightened state of alertness. This area, 20th & Texas Avenue, is not exactly a high-rent district.
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Re: Failure to conceal, public intoxication
Feel sorry for the guy as he did not commit anything and was not a threat to anybody. Is there anything we can do to help this guy?
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His name wasn't in the paper, so not at the moment. We have quite a few members in Texas City, Maybe one of them will hear the scuttlebutt.
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thats not right.
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How do you know? All we know is what information is in the cruddy little article.xrod69 wrote:thats not right.
Intoxication DOES include any drug or controlled substance.
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Can you explain from the LEO point of view what kind of evidence collection would follow a PI arrest?txinvestigator wrote:Intoxication DOES include any drug or controlled substance.
Would they draw blood or take a urine sample, or just rely on officers' testimony.
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They would have to get a court order to obtain blood/urine unless the suspect wavied his rights and offered a sample. I just don't see that happening on such an arrest. The arrest was probably based on statements made by the suspect as well as the officers's observations. But that is just speculation on my part.seamusTX wrote:Can you explain from the LEO point of view what kind of evidence collection would follow a PI arrest?txinvestigator wrote:Intoxication DOES include any drug or controlled substance.
Would they draw blood or take a urine sample, or just rely on officers' testimony.
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He could probably get a lawyer and fight the PI really hard and probably win. Sounds like something that if the DA is a decent guy he will just let die.
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We need more facts and I don't want to speculate. I'll be watching this case closely, since I live in the same county.gregthehand wrote:Sounds like something that if the DA is a decent guy he will just let die.
The DA, Kirk Sistrunk, is not notably anti-RKBA. A few weeks ago they did not charge a guy who shot himself in a public place and then lied about what happened.
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Jim - Were they able to stitch up his public place?seamusTX wrote:a guy who shot himself in a public place
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I guess. He shot himself in the leg and was in the hospital a short time. No Darwin Award. Try again.shaggydog wrote:Jim - Were they able to stitch up his public place?
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The question is was it HIS prescription medication he was high on? I refrained from carrying when I went to breakfast Saturday morning as I was taking Vicodin post my surgery. While I feel perfectly normal while taking them, I felt it was better to not have to worry about my perceived state of medicinal well being if anything were to happen.seamusTX wrote:.... The man had a CHL but was charged with public intoxication "because [police] suspect he was high on prescripton medication.".....
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I don't see where ownership is relavent. If he were drunk would it matter whether he drank from a bottle he bought, or from a bottle belonging to someone else? Either way, he is drunk and therefore PI.Keith B wrote:The question is was it HIS prescription medication he was high on?
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All I know is what's in that article. I will follow up with any more information I get.Keith B wrote:seamusTX wrote:The question is was it HIS prescription medication he was high on?
I don't want to speculate because the guy might be a member of this forum or a friend of a member.
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It does. If he was on medication that was prescribed to him, and he happened to be having an adverse reaction, then it is different than if he was taking someone elses prescription meds for kicks. Yes, either way he would be PI, but there IS a difference.shaggydog wrote:I don't see where ownership is relavent. If he were drunk would it matter whether he drank from a bottle he bought, or from a bottle belonging to someone else? Either way, he is drunk and therefore PI.Keith B wrote:The question is was it HIS prescription medication he was high on?
I have had meds prescribed that did strange things to me, and I refused to take any additional becuase of it. There are folks that would have been glad to have taken them off of my hands to get the same reaction for entertainment purposes.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Hopefully it was all an unfortunate incident and he will be absolved of any wrong doing.
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