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Close call with Glock

Postby Laneman » Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:19 am

Hope this helps someone avoid an AD. I had just returned from work late at night, pulled into my driveway and turned off the truck. As always, I reached my Glock out of the center console and went to holster it into the soft holster on right hip. As I pushed the gun into the holster I heard the distinct sound of the trigger catching on the holster edge then snapping free. The holster had plucked the trigger like a guitar string. I no longer holster in the dark. I turn on the cab light and watch the trigger as I slide the gun in. I also do this in the day whenever I holster, always watch and verify the trigger is clear of the holster as it slides in. Be safe everyone.
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Re: Close call with Glock

Postby MadMonkey » Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:53 am

This is why I stay away from nylon holsters and keep a close eye on wear and tear on my leather ones. Glad you're okay!
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Re: Close call with Glock

Postby Excaliber » Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:16 am

MadMonkey wrote:This is why I stay away from nylon holsters and keep a close eye on wear and tear on my leather ones. Glad you're okay!


I won't use any holster that doesn't provide a consistently rigid channel for the gun. I had a few bad experiences early on, including having one of those nylon clip on holsters coming off the belt and out with the gun when I was drawing it to deal with an incident and really didn't need any unexpected complications.

Never again - no nylon holsters for this kid.

These days I use kydex much more than leather.
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Re: Close call with Glock

Postby OldCannon » Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:57 am

"Soft" holsters are bad, exactly for the reason you have (safely) observed. If you have a gun with an external safety, like a 1911, they're not AS bad, but still.
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Re: Close call with Glock

Postby VMI77 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:15 am

I had a hard leather IWB holster with a clip and had a similar experience during an advance hand gun class as Excaliber (without the danger) --the holster came out with the gun on a draw --twice. No more belt clips. I started using a Blackhawk kydex paddle holster with the trigger guard lock. Drawing and reholstering is very smooth and the holster is very comfortable.
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Re: Close call with Glock

Postby Vol Texan » Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:30 am

Laneman wrote:Hope this helps someone avoid an AD. I had just returned from work late at night, pulled into my driveway and turned off the truck. As always, I reached my Glock out of the center console and went to holster it into the soft holster on right hip. As I pushed the gun into the holster I heard the distinct sound of the trigger catching on the holster edge then snapping free. The holster had plucked the trigger like a guitar string. I no longer holster in the dark. I turn on the cab light and watch the trigger as I slide the gun in. I also do this in the day whenever I holster, always watch and verify the trigger is clear of the holster as it slides in. Be safe everyone.


This is precisely the reason I changed my EDC from a Glock 36 to my Sig Pro 2022. I used a good leather holster, and I'd never had any issues with it, but I was always concerned about the tail of my shirt (when untucked) catching in the trigger guard as I holstered. I'm not a little guy, so this was a real danger - real enough that I carried without one in the chamber. Yes, I know that's crazy, but the safety concern of holstering the Glock outweighed the risk factor of having to rack one if I had to pull in a hurry. I couldn't live with myself if I'd had a ND and hurt someone.

Now, with my Sig, I can keep my thumb behind the trigger (it's a DA/SA, so I carry hammer forward), and get a tactile response if the trigger is 'self pulling' due to obstruction such as a shirt tail. Edited to correct: I can keep my thumb behind the hammer, not the trigger.

If I were in an OC situation, or if I didn't have to go unarmed at times, this wouldn't be such a concern. But given that I have to holster / unholster / reholster during the day (picking up my daughter at school, etc), I thought the risk was too much.

And I do love the Sig so much more!
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Re: Close call with HOLSTER

Postby texanjoker » Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:37 pm

I would re title that to close call with a holster. It wasn't the glock causing the issue.

Why are you taking it out and putting it into the center console? My opinion is a person should carry in the same way to build muscle memory. If you had to bail out during a car jacking, your gun probably would be sitting in the center console and you would be reaching for an empty holster.
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Re: Close call with Glock

Postby C-dub » Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:04 pm

Vol Texan wrote:
Laneman wrote:Hope this helps someone avoid an AD. I had just returned from work late at night, pulled into my driveway and turned off the truck. As always, I reached my Glock out of the center console and went to holster it into the soft holster on right hip. As I pushed the gun into the holster I heard the distinct sound of the trigger catching on the holster edge then snapping free. The holster had plucked the trigger like a guitar string. I no longer holster in the dark. I turn on the cab light and watch the trigger as I slide the gun in. I also do this in the day whenever I holster, always watch and verify the trigger is clear of the holster as it slides in. Be safe everyone.


This is precisely the reason I changed my EDC from a Glock 36 to my Sig Pro 2022. I used a good leather holster, and I'd never had any issues with it, but I was always concerned about the tail of my shirt (when untucked) catching in the trigger guard as I holstered. I'm not a little guy, so this was a real danger - real enough that I carried without one in the chamber. Yes, I know that's crazy, but the safety concern of holstering the Glock outweighed the risk factor of having to rack one if I had to pull in a hurry. I couldn't live with myself if I'd had a ND and hurt someone.

Now, with my Sig, I can keep my thumb behind the trigger (it's a DA/SA, so I carry hammer forward), and get a tactile response if the trigger is 'self pulling' due to obstruction such as a shirt tail.

If I were in an OC situation, or if I didn't have to go unarmed at times, this wouldn't be such a concern. But given that I have to holster / unholster / reholster during the day (picking up my daughter at school, etc), I thought the risk was too much.

And I do love the Sig so much more!

It would have been much less expensive to have gone to a kydex holster instead of a new gun and holster. :biggrinjester:

I have put my Glocks in kydex for years. Every now and then I consider a leather holster, but talk myself out of it every time. Usually, when I have to disarm I just remove the entire holster with the gun in it and put it in the center console. I rarely take the gun out of the holster when not at a range or at home.
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Re: Close call with Glock

Postby The Annoyed Man » Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:11 pm

OWB holsters with rigid openings for me only. I never have this problem.
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Re: Close call with HOLSTER

Postby Kadelic » Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:13 pm

texanjoker wrote:I would re title that to close call with a holster. It wasn't the glock causing the issue.

Why are you taking it out and putting it into the center console? My opinion is a person should carry in the same way to build muscle memory. If you had to bail out during a car jacking, your gun probably would be sitting in the center console and you would be reaching for an empty holster.


:iagree:

Being a lefty I don't have the same seat belt interference issues as some folks that carry on the right side do. Also, since I can't carry at work, I usually make the trip to and from the shop with a Remora tucked AIWB at 11:30 instead of my usual IWB holster at 8:30. That way it's always on my my body, and when I park at work I can slip the Remora into the lock box under the seat and not have to mess with un-holstering and re-holstering. After work I just unlock the box, slip it AIWB, and I'm good to go even if I have to run an errand or two before I go home.
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Re: Close call with Glock

Postby Moby » Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:25 pm

I also carry a Glock and am a big fan of the manufacturer.
However, that being said, I always holster the firearm (IWB Desantis)
BEFORE I tuck the holster inside my waist band. Proper handling
of every tool prevents accidents. It is a downside to Glocks.
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Re: Close call with Glock

Postby Jumping Frog » Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:55 pm

Excaliber wrote:Never again - no nylon holsters for this kid.

My only use for a nylon holster is serving as a glovebox holster. I keep it in the glovebox. If I need to go inside someone disarmed, I'll draw from my IWB and put it in the glovebox holster.
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Re: Close call with Glock

Postby Reserve161 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:17 pm

I carry a 1911, cocked and locked. I use a Galco OWB leather
holster.
I know there is a manual safety (ON) and a grip safety but when
I holster, I always grasp the weapon so that my thumb is between
the hammer and the firing pin so that if by some miraculous way
my shirttail or something gets in the trigger guard and pulls it,
the hammer would hit me on the thumb rather than the firing pin.
That also precludes me having the grip safety depressed as well.

I figure holstering and drawing are the two most dangerous/critical
times when handling my pistol.
I've read many times about something snagging the trigger when
the pistol is holstered.
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Re: Close call with Glock

Postby Excaliber » Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:40 pm

Jumping Frog wrote:
Excaliber wrote:Never again - no nylon holsters for this kid.

My only use for a nylon holster is serving as a glovebox holster. I keep it in the glovebox. If I need to go inside someone disarmed, I'll draw from my IWB and put it in the glovebox holster.


That makes sense and is a good use for a nylon holster. It keeps the gun from getting scratched up while banging around in the glovebox.
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Re: Close call with Glock

Postby donniet » Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:22 pm

I don't get to contribute often, so I hope this helps. I also carry a Glock IWB and this is how I holster. Since the trigger finger index is automatic, it was easy to form the habit of covering the trigger with the second finger while holstering. As shown in the photo the extra finger protects the trigger until the firearm is sliding into the holster. :coolgleamA:
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