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Anyone using Lee Liqiud Alox Bullet Lube? / Update

Postby DubiousDan » Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:08 am

I'm going to start casting again and have a Lyman Sizer/Lubricator but I've thought about the Lee Liquid Alox lube to save some trouble and mess.

What is the basic method of using the Alox lube and any tips on using it.

What bullet styles do you find that work well or don't work well?

I'll be casting .357 and .45 (for ACP and Colt) and hope to add 9mm.
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Re: Anyone using Lee Liqiud Alox Bullet Lube?

Postby KD5NRH » Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:45 am

DubiousDan wrote:I'm going to start casting again and have a Lyman Sizer/Lubricator but I've thought about the Lee Liquid Alox lube to save some trouble and mess.


You won't be saving any mess, and the stuff reeks, but it works.

What is the basic method of using the Alox lube and any tips on using it.


I generally run the bullets through the Lee sizer with a bit of WD40 or similar to keep from leading up the sizer, then drop them in a Ziploc with a squirt of Liquid Alox. Seal the bag and roll it all around for a bit, then lay the bullets out on wax paper overnight in the shed or garage. Wash your hands well with dish detergent afterward to get the gunk off.

What bullet styles do you find that work well or don't work well?


Any of the Lee molds with the "TL" designator should work best, but I use it on a few non-TL types with no problems.

I'll be casting .357 and .45 (for ACP and Colt) and hope to add 9mm.


Just get a .356 sizer and a 125gr .357 mold. Size in stages; size everything from that mold to .358, then the ones you want for 9mm down to .356. You may lose some of the texturing of a TL-style bullet in the second sizing, but it still works fine with the Liquid Alox.
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Re: Anyone using Lee Liqiud Alox Bullet Lube?

Postby DubiousDan » Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:30 pm

Thanks for the information. I have .357 and .358 sizing dies already.
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Re: Anyone using Lee Liqiud Alox Bullet Lube?

Postby Skooter » Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:34 am

I Alox my 9mm cast bullets twice. The 1st coat is very light then I run them through the resizer, then apply a 2nd heavier coat. I spread them out on wax paper and let them dry overnight with a fan blowing across them. I have zero leading problems.

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Re: Anyone using Lee Liqiud Alox Bullet Lube?

Postby DubiousDan » Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:47 am

KD5NRH wrote:I generally run the bullets through the Lee sizer with a bit of WD40 or similar to keep from leading up the sizer, then drop them in a Ziploc with a squirt of Liquid Alox. Seal the bag and roll it all around for a bit, then lay the bullets out on wax paper overnight in the shed or garage. Wash your hands well with dish detergent afterward to get the gunk off.


Do you need to do anything in regards to removing the WD40?
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Re: Anyone using Lee Liqiud Alox Bullet Lube?

Postby DubiousDan » Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:49 am

Skooter wrote:I Alox my 9mm cast bullets twice. The 1st coat is very light then I run them through the resizer, then apply a 2nd heavier coat. I spread them out on wax paper and let them dry overnight with a fan blowing across them. I have zero leading problems.

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When you put them on the wax paper do you need to stand them on their bases or does that matter? I'm guessing that you don't want any of them touching each other,
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Re: Anyone using Lee Liqiud Alox Bullet Lube?

Postby KD5NRH » Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:11 pm

DubiousDan wrote:Do you need to do anything in regards to removing the WD40?


I washed some, and left others alone. In .38Spl and 9mm I can't tell any difference in the results.

DubiousDan wrote:When you put them on the wax paper do you need to stand them on their bases or does that matter? I'm guessing that you don't want any of them touching each other,


I started out doing that, but it takes forever when you've got 2-300 at a time. It seems to work fine either way as long as they're spread out.
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Re: Anyone using Lee Liqiud Alox Bullet Lube?

Postby DubiousDan » Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:59 pm

Thanks for the tips. I've ordered a bottle of it and a Tumble Lube mold from Midway. My brother got 40Lbs of alloy off E Bay. Looks like we're good to go and should be able to fire up the furnace early next week. I still have a gas check style mold and a full box of gas checks that I should probably use up too.

Thanks all
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Re: Anyone using Lee Liqiud Alox Bullet Lube?

Postby DubiousDan » Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:32 am

The Liquid Alox arrived yesterday and I found some bullets I had cast some years ago so I lubed some up last night. This morning they're still a little sticky but should be good to go this evening. Thanks to the tips I got here I was careful not to use too much.
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Re: Anyone using Lee Liqiud Alox Bullet Lube? / Update

Postby DubiousDan » Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:51 am

So, I got out the Lyman Mag 20 the has been sitting idle for at least 15 years and plugged it in. Unfortunately I chose a circuit that has a GFCI outlet. The GFCI kept tripping so I took the furnace apart to see if I could find a short. I wasn't able to find anything so I gave up and called my brother (who I shoot with) and told him and we decide to order a Lee furnace. In the mean time this brother calls our other brother (knowledgeable on electronic issues) who tells him that GFCI and anything with a large heating element generally aren't compatible. The information is relayed to me and I set out to find an outlet that isn't on a GFCI circuit. All the outside circuits on my house are GFCI as are 4 outlets in my garage but fortunately there was one outlet stuck in the back corner that was not GFCI.

I got the furnace up and running and after cleaning the crud out of the pour spout I was able to cast a few good (380 acp) boolits. I lubed them with a very light coat (barely visable) of the Lee lube and after a couple days of drying they were still tacky to touch so I gave them a very light coating of a liquid car polish and the next day all seems well. I'll load some up this week and give them a try using a couple 380 loads mentioned in another thread here
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Re: Anyone using Lee Liqiud Alox Bullet Lube? / Update

Postby Cap'n » Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:13 pm

Good on ya.

Keep the updates coming. I've been looking at my 20-yr old casting gear and wondering about getting back into it. Got spoiled with Oregon LaserCast and Berry's plated bullets but since prices have doubled-tripled Ive had second thoughts.

Wife still gives me heck if I pick up a wheel weight in a parking lot, but you never know. :lol:
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Re: Anyone using Lee Liqiud Alox Bullet Lube? / Update

Postby DubiousDan » Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:20 pm

Cap'n wrote:Keep the updates coming. . :lol:


I went to the range today and put 50 of the Lee Liquid lubed bullets through the GP-100. Keep in mind these are bullets I cast years ago and they were a gas check design but I didn't use any Gas Checks. It was just a little experiment. The rounds were loaded to about 38 +P level loaded with Red Dot and were fairly accurate, unfortunately they smoked and stunk as much as any other cast bullet with regular lube. The surprise came when I got home and started cleaning the revolver. The barrel came clean with just 3 patches with a little Break Free, I wasn't able to see any lead in the bore and the cylinders were just as easy to clean. They were easier to clean up after than the moly coated bullets I had been using. That made it worth while. :cheers2:

Yesterday my brother and I did some casting. We did 45 acp, 357 and 380 bullets. The 45s and 357s were Tumble Lube design and the 380 were traditional. I tried loading some of the 380s I cast and lubed the other day but that didn't work out very well. They're too big. I measured them and they run .358 - .360 and won't go in to the seating die so I'll have to get a sizing die for them. The 45s measure .452 and the 357s are .358 so I won't need to size them.

I got home about 2pm today and lubed some of the 45s. I put them on a table in direct sunlight and by 7pm they were dry so I loaded up 50 of them. All the rounds dropped easily in and out of a chamber gauge. I'll try to take them to the range Thursday but if I can't I'll go next week.
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Re: Anyone using Lee Liqiud Alox Bullet Lube? / Update

Postby KD5NRH » Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:25 pm

DubiousDan wrote:unfortunately they smoked and stunk as much as any other cast bullet with regular lube.


Yep, it's pretty stinky stuff.

The surprise came when I got home and started cleaning the revolver.


For a more pleasant surprise, let it cool off for a few minutes and run a single JSP through; it will carry out any waxy residue, which takes a lot of the carbon fouling out as well. I usually keep a few Magtech or Independence JSPs loose in a side pocket of the range bag just for that.
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Re: Anyone using Lee Liqiud Alox Bullet Lube? / Update

Postby DubiousDan » Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:10 pm

KD5NRH wrote:For a more pleasant surprise, let it cool off for a few minutes and run a single JSP through; it will carry out any waxy residue, which takes a lot of the carbon fouling out as well. I usually keep a few Magtech or Independence JSPs loose in a side pocket of the range bag just for that.


Thanks for the heads up. I'll try it. I did notice some residue on the spent casings (not as much as with traditional lube) any tips for getting that off or do you just tumble them.
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Re: Anyone using Lee Liqiud Alox Bullet Lube? / Update

Postby NcongruNt » Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:36 pm

DubiousDan wrote:
KD5NRH wrote:For a more pleasant surprise, let it cool off for a few minutes and run a single JSP through; it will carry out any waxy residue, which takes a lot of the carbon fouling out as well. I usually keep a few Magtech or Independence JSPs loose in a side pocket of the range bag just for that.


Thanks for the heads up. I'll try it. I did notice some residue on the spent casings (not as much as with traditional lube) any tips for getting that off or do you just tumble them.


Rubbing alcohol on a rag usually gets bullet lube off nice and easy.
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