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100 grn RN berrys

Postby powerboatr » Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:17 pm

anyone see a problem with using 100 grn round nose flat bottom berrys FMJ bullets for range rounds in a 9mm
They wont be loaded nearly as strong as pp rounds, just used for target and exercise. I know the train like you fight and fight like you train adage, which would dictate using 125 Grn bullets and comparable loading to mimic pp rounds, but wasting 125 grn bullets on paper and dirt to me is not frugal

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Re: 100 grn RN berrys

Postby Jumping Frog » Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:23 pm

Nope, I don't see any problem at all.

As a matter of fact, I think my next 9mm bullet mold will be the Lee 105 gr SWC for my 9 mm.
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Re: 100 grn RN berrys

Postby mlawler » Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:49 pm

I've loaded 95gn hollow points in 357 Sig. Little screamers!! :lol:
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Re: 100 grn RN berrys

Postby Don2 » Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:18 pm

powerboatr wrote:anyone see a problem with using 100 grn round nose flat bottom berrys FMJ bullets for range rounds in a 9mm
They wont be loaded nearly as strong as pp rounds, just used for target and exercise. I know the train like you fight and fight like you train adage, which would dictate using 125 Grn bullets and comparable loading to mimic pp rounds, but wasting 125 grn bullets on paper and dirt to me is not frugal

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I bought a few thousand of these to use in a colt gov. 380 and a 9mm pistol I have, but have not loaded any yet..!!!!!
They will work very well as long as you keep the velocity down around lead bullets..!!
I bought these for the same reasons as you.
I plan on loading some up pretty soon I hope... :banghead: ------> :fire -----> :thumbs2:


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Re: 100 grn RN berrys

Postby powerboatr » Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:55 pm

while i was waiting for Boardwalk Empire
i loaded up 5 to go test in the am.
kept powder low, I figured these guys would be screaming at 100 grains, pretty sure the copper coating will stay intact
3.5 grains of #2 accurate powder.
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Re: 100 grn RN berrys

Postby donpeeps » Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:13 pm

I loaded several hundred Berry 100 Grn RN for use in a S&W Bodyguard .380 and did have a problem. I used the load data that most books suggested and an OAL of .98. At .98 the bullet would hit the step in the chamber, when I went to .965 - .970 the gun cycled fine and fully closed. I think This could be just a BG problem but not sure, maybe a combination of BG and the shape of the Berry 100 gr RN. :headscratch

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Re: 100 grn RN berrys

Postby 2firfun50 » Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:30 am

donpeeps wrote:I loaded several hundred Berry 100 Grn RN for use in a S&W Bodyguard .380 and did have a problem. I used the load data that most books suggested and an OAL of .98. At .98 the bullet would hit the step in the chamber, when I went to .965 - .970 the gun cycled fine and fully closed. I think This could be just a BG problem but not sure, maybe a combination of BG and the shape of the Berry 100 gr RN. :headscratch

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The Body Guard just likes them a little shorter. I load mine at .960 to .965 and they function perfectly in my wife's BG.
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Re: 100 grn RN berrys

Postby Jumping Frog » Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:02 am

When I am trying a new bullet, I'll load just a few bullets on empty cases and then test their feeding first. Make sure they fit in the magazine and then feed consecutively in the chamber and rack the slide a few times.

Once I find a length I want to try, I'll load about 25 rounds for each powder level I want to try at the next range trip.

I won't load a couple hundred rounds with a new bullet until I've tested it. I learned the hard way that pulling the bullets on a couple of hundred rounds is a real pain.
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Re: 100 grn RN berrys

Postby teddy salad » Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:32 pm

I use those in my Yugo M57 Tokarev
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Re: 100 grn RN berrys

Postby Oldgringo » Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:51 pm

Jumping Frog wrote:I won't load a couple hundred rounds with a new bullet until I've tested it. I learned the hard way that pulling the bullets on a couple of hundred rounds is a real pain.


Been there, done that. :oops:

BTW, I've found the Berry Bullets in 9mm and .45 caliber to be economically quite satisfactory for my purposes. After Mrs. Oldgringo and my CHL renewal outing this past weekend, I think I'll order some more .45 acp HP's. The old girl did quite well with my SA 1911 LW Compact EDC. I was proud of her. :thumbs2:
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Re: 100 grn RN berrys

Postby powerboatr » Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:28 pm

powerboatr wrote:while i was waiting for Boardwalk Empire
i loaded up 5 to go test in the am.
kept powder low, I figured these guys would be screaming at 100 grains, pretty sure the copper coating will stay intact
3.5 grains of #2 accurate powder.



finally got a trip to the range in amongst my busy pensioner days :mrgreen:
3.5 worked very well and had no feed issues. now to build up 100 and go hurt some dirt

I did find on a side note the 3.5 grains in a 380 shell with these 100 gr bullets was a bit extreme in the kick of the hand meter, in the bersa
this #2 powder seems to burn FAAAASSSSST compared to the #7 accurate powder
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Re: 100 grn RN berrys

Postby Jumping Frog » Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:10 am

powerboatr wrote:this #2 powder seems to burn FAAAASSSSST compared to the #7 accurate powder

Well, yeah, it is a much faster powder.

Although various powder burn rate charts will vary in how they rank powders, AA #2 is substantially faster than AA #7.

For example, Hodgdon ranks AA #2 as 25th fastest, with AA #7 as 50th.
http://www.hodgdon.com/burn-rate.html

Ramshot also has a nice powder comparison chart:
http://www.ramshot.com/wp-content/uploa ... _rates.pdf

AA #2 is similar in burn rate to VihtaVuori N320, Ramshot Zip, or Alliant Red Dot.
AA #7 is similar in burn rate to Hodgdon LONGSHOT, Ramshot Enforcer, or Alliant Blue Dot.
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