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Made my first alloy and ingots today!

Postby APynckel » Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:10 pm

I was graciously donated 50 lbs of 100% plumbers lead recently, so I calculated up a good alloy (2% Sn, 5% Sb, and 93% Pb for ~ 13.7 BH) and got to assembling my first smelting attempt!

I acquired an old cast iron dutch oven, turkey frying propane stand, and my necessary ladles.
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weighed out half of my metals and dumped them in
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set the flame and began the melt!
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Fluxed with some saw dust
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realized i had double the casting capacity than I anticipated, so I doubled up!
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I got the temp up to 700F, fluxed the new volume, and skimmed out the dross:
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TIME TO POUR!!!
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AND MOAR INGOTS!!!
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MONUMENTAL SUCCESS!!

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Re: Made my first alloy and ingots today!

Postby Jumping Frog » Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:38 pm

Great looking muffins!

Good job.

What were your tin and antimony sources?
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Re: Made my first alloy and ingots today!

Postby APynckel » Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:43 pm

Jumping Frog wrote:Great looking muffins!

Good job.

What were your tin and antimony sources?


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Re: Made my first alloy and ingots today!

Postby AndyC » Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:55 pm

Nothing like homemade bullet-ready ingots - nice job :thumbs2:
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Re: Made my first alloy and ingots today!

Postby Don2 » Sun Nov 25, 2012 5:45 pm

What I want to know is.....HOW BIG WAS THE SMILE ON YOUR FACE when you finished pouring the last ingots????

I bet it was like the first person who cooked meat over fire.....then took a bite of it :woohoo

GOOD JOB
Looks great.
Now comes the coolest part...pouring little pretty shiny lead pills with that nice new RCBS pot.....!

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Re: Made my first alloy and ingots today!

Postby AndyC » Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:57 pm

APynckel wrote:realized i had double the casting capacity than I anticipated, so I doubled up!

One safety-tip that you may already be aware of but it's worth mentioning just in case.

Be real careful adding solid lead to melted lead - lead explosions can happen if the solid lead has moisture on it.
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Re: Made my first alloy and ingots today!

Postby APynckel » Sun Nov 25, 2012 7:04 pm

Don2 wrote:What I want to know is.....HOW BIG WAS THE SMILE ON YOUR FACE when you finished pouring the last ingots????

I bet it was like the first person who cooked meat over fire.....then took a bite of it :woohoo

GOOD JOB
Looks great.
Now comes the coolest part...pouring little pretty shiny lead pills with that nice new RCBS pot.....!

Don2


I've had experiences casting before. Was nice to be able to do my own process, and have the alloys work as I expected them to. Really pleased with the end result. It's fun, I really enjoy it. I cannot wait, however, to make my first shiny boolits.


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APynckel wrote:realized i had double the casting capacity than I anticipated, so I doubled up!

One safety-tip that you may already be aware of but it's worth mentioning just in case.

Be real careful adding solid lead to melted lead - lead explosions can happen if the solid lead has moisture on it.


Understood. Was pretty confident that this was solid w/o moisture. Professionally cast ingots.
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Re: Made my first alloy and ingots today!

Postby Don2 » Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:13 pm

AndyC wrote:
APynckel wrote:realized i had double the casting capacity than I anticipated, so I doubled up!

One safety-tip that you may already be aware of but it's worth mentioning just in case.

Be real careful adding solid lead to melted lead - lead explosions can happen if the solid lead has moisture on it.


OUCH.....Had that happen once, placed several range scrap bullets into my pot while it was melted.
One must have had some moisture in it because it popped. I usually have my safety glasses on when near or using the pot. I sit them in and then turned around to do something else...only heard the pop did not see it happen.
It was kinda scary after I thought about it..!!!

" It's just part of the fun..!! "
No more fun for me....Some people pre-warm their ingots before sitting them into the melt.
But it's not always possible I guess...

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Re: Made my first alloy and ingots today!

Postby APynckel » Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:44 pm

Got my wheelweights in yesterday and melted them down for MOAR INGOTS!!!

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Re: Made my first alloy and ingots today!

Postby AndyC » Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:04 pm

Boys, I think there's a new addict in town... :rolll
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Re: Made my first alloy and ingots today!

Postby Don2 » Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:47 pm

AndyC wrote:Boys, I think there's a new addict in town... :rolll


Yep...It's kinda like reloading crack I guess????
Never did it, but understand it's very habit forming.......!!

Hmmmmm...Maybe I should have come up with another comparison??
Maybe Crown Royal Reserve or XR ?????

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Re: Made my first alloy and ingots today!

Postby APynckel » Thu Nov 29, 2012 7:37 pm

I have set up a hookup with a local range to give me some lead to recycle on their cleanups :)

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Re: Made my first alloy and ingots today!

Postby AndyC » Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:37 am

Oh, excellent - I'm sure nobody needs to tell you to grab all that you can while you can! :woohoo
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Re: Made my first alloy and ingots today!

Postby velo99 » Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:32 am

Buying bullets irks me. I bought exactly one box of bullets. Hornady XTP @ .21 each. I shot 6 of them and eventually will shoot the rest but the cost almost warrants buying those rounds instead of reloading. I cast 450 thankgiving weekend in one session in a similar setup as the op. Drop them in water to make them harder & you won't lead the barrel as bad.
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Re: Made my first alloy and ingots today!

Postby Jumping Frog » Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:53 am

velo99 wrote: Drop them in water to make them harder & you won't lead the barrel as bad.

Not necessarily. It all depends on the caliber.

Water drop a low pressure round like .45 ACP or .38 SP and you can easily make the bullets too hard to obdurate in the barrel. That will cause excessive leading.

The best approach is to match the bullet hardness to the pressure. High pressure rounds, like a .44 Mag need a much harder alloy than low pressure rounds. I water drop some of my calibers but not others.
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