txinvestigator wrote:It is not fair, nor appropriate. The law is simple enough. If it is a valid sign, stay out. If the colors appear to contrast, stay out. If the letters are only 1 7/8 inches tall, stay out.
No argument at all...I'm with you on that...We all pretty much know thats what you are supposed to do...
Why should a private business owner who is not subject to the CHL laws be have a penalty attached if he posts a sign that does not affect a CHL holder?
Because if your going to dance, you should wear the right shoes...Otherwise you will get blisters...
We wear the right shoes...
(this is a horrible analogy, but I figure it may somewhat illustrate the parity between the CHL community and the other side of the coin)
In kind, you will never be able to require a private business to have lockers available for you to secure your weapon if they decide to post 30.06.
Why not??? It works in other states???
And if Texas passed this amendment, would you still think it to be wrong???
I just don't see it as a violation of a person, business or other facilities First Amendment right, that if in this case, you wish to restrict an activity per the law, that allows you to do so, you must follow the law in restricting that activity entirely, or not have that restriction be binding...
I teach these CHL holders, and I can tell you I don't want them handling their weapons in and out of a locker in public places.
I know you do, and I have heard nothing but fantastic things about your methods and reasonings, they are well founded...
I really do understand what you and Nitrogen say in regards to First Amendment rights and private business rights...
But, in the example of the other thread I posted as a reference, there just doesn't appear to me from that example that after all these years, that businesses and other institutions cannot either get it right, or be compelled to do so, or not post (restrict) at all...
If we are required to follow the law, they should follow the guidelines and format that the law gives them the right to do so...
Not dance around the parsing of words and phrases, and post something they know is incorrect, just to cause a little hiccup every now and then when someone in our community correctly questions this...
I am of course (for years) part of the crowd that says to not stir up the hornets nest when you see an incorrect sign...But in this case, I think it was allowed to fester, till someone questioned it...FWIW...
Maybe I value and trust your judgement over entities that push as hard as we do in cases like this...Yet, we still see someone who does something like this, and we tell people to "ignore it"...
I say lets get it all out on the table, get it cleared up, and move on...Those that comply properly, we bypass in our lives...Those that choose to not restrict, well we have the freedom to choose that path as well...
No...I'm no wearing my tin-foil cap, thank you very much...