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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 12:04 pm
by ea40ss
More Texans are killed or injured in Automoble accidents caused by sober drivers each year than all the CHL related deaths or injuries since the laws inception in 1996.
(44.7325% of all statistics are made up on the spot.)

We don't require testing for drivers license renewals.
You just show up, get your thumb print taken, your eyes checked, and your picture taken.
This sounds like a good case for more driver testing. :)
Seriously though most folks who renew their drivers license probably practice that skill on a regular basis. I'm not quoting any statistics just pure speculation. I know there are people who never drive but still renew or haven't driven in ten years but can still drive.

And I also understand that there are people who have never fired a gun and can manage to use one for self defense. There are probably people who have never used a lug wrench but could probably figure out how to use it. I don't mean that in any way as an insult just making a point. I know that you are a very intelligent person and I respect your opinion. Wouldn't you rather have someone learn how to use it before they needed it. Now I will admit that I don't read my NRA magazine. I would speculate that most of these people were at home where maybe you can let a few rounds fly while trying to figure out how to use the gun and find the target and make a meaningful shot? I would hope that anyone who carries a gun has at least fired a gun at some point in their life. Seriously.

As far as the shooting: I don't think four hours and 50 rounds every four or five years is asking too much.

I'm not disparaging CHL holders who don't shoot on a regular basis, I'm married to one.

Respectfully,

Eric

Just a CYA edit. I was being sarcastic about letting a few rounds fly. Please try not to do that.

Of course my real goal is:

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 1:03 am
by tomneal
Of course my real goal is:

Alaska Carry


Pack Em if you got Em
Get a CHL for instant check if you want.



Making Renewals easier is just a step along the way.

Re: Of course my real goal is:

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:28 pm
by stevie_d_64
tomneal wrote:Of course my real goal is:

Alaska Carry


Pack Em if you got Em
Get a CHL for instant check if you want.



Making Renewals easier is just a step along the way.
I knew there was something I liked about you... :lol:

Re: Of course my real goal is:

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:47 pm
by gigag04
tomneal wrote:Of course my real goal is:

Alaska Carry


Pack Em if you got Em
Get a CHL for instant check if you want.



Making Renewals easier is just a step along the way.
Pack em if you get Em? I'm confused... :(

Re: Of course my real goal is:

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:02 pm
by Kalrog
gigag04 wrote:
tomneal wrote:Of course my real goal is:

Alaska Carry


Pack Em if you got Em
Get a CHL for instant check if you want.



Making Renewals easier is just a step along the way.
Pack em if you get Em? I'm confused... :(
Alaska has an even better system of CCW than Vermont does. They both allow anyone with a legal firearm to pack it concealed if they want to - no licence needed at all. But Alaska allows for you to get a license if you want the reciprocity benefits that can provide.

So if you got a handgun, you can pack it. Hence "Pack em if you got em".

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:04 pm
by ea40ss
After a great deal of thought and re-reading many of the topics and posts..You've changed my mind. The air must have been thin on my soap box. I lost sight of the real issue. The license itself. Criminals carry anytime anywhere, so why should we as law abiding citizens need a license that is expensive and restrictive.

+ 1 for easier renewals as a first step towards Alaska style carry!

I still feel the same about training and practice but I realize that is a personal choice. We all have to accept the consequences of our own actions but also take responsability for our own safety. I can only hope as I said before that someone who decides to carry at least fires the handgun once to make sure it is capable of fireing and learns some safety. And maybe practice drawing from concealement and ...there I go again.

Thanks,

Eric

Re: Of course my real goal is:

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:10 pm
by dws1117
tomneal wrote:Of course my real goal is:

Alaska Carry


Pack Em if you got Em
Get a CHL for instant check if you want.



Making Renewals easier is just a step along the way.
DING DING DING!!!!! Folks, we have the winner. If you can get this passed, everyone will buy you a gun. Well, except me, umm I'm poor and expecting a baby (well the wife is, I just look like I am).

Re: Of course my real goal is:

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:25 pm
by gigag04
Kalrog wrote:
gigag04 wrote:
tomneal wrote:Of course my real goal is:

Alaska Carry


Pack Em if you got Em
Get a CHL for instant check if you want.



Making Renewals easier is just a step along the way.
Pack em if you get Em? I'm confused... :(
Alaska has an even better system of CCW than Vermont does. They both allow anyone with a legal firearm to pack it concealed if they want to - no licence needed at all. But Alaska allows for you to get a license if you want the reciprocity benefits that can provide.

So if you got a handgun, you can pack it. Hence "Pack em if you got em".
Many thanks!!! This is an excellent idea. But won't blood run in the streets??? :roll:

Re: Of course my real goal is:

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:12 am
by stevie_d_64
gigag04 wrote:Many thanks!!! This is an excellent idea. But won't blood run in the streets??? :roll:
Yer fixin' to get a noogie boy wonder... :lol:

Re: Of course my real goal is:

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:30 am
by gigag04
stevie_d_64 wrote:
gigag04 wrote:Many thanks!!! This is an excellent idea. But won't blood run in the streets??? :roll:
Yer fixin' to get a noogie boy wonder... :lol:
I was inspired by your
stevie_d_64 in another post wrote:it's for the children
comment. :lol:

Re: Of course my real goal is:

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:35 am
by Paladin
But won't blood run in the streets??? :roll:
Yep, the blood of criminals. :wink:

Re: Of course my real goal is:

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:05 pm
by stevie_d_64
gigag04 wrote:
stevie_d_64 wrote:
gigag04 wrote:Many thanks!!! This is an excellent idea. But won't blood run in the streets??? :roll:
Yer fixin' to get a noogie boy wonder... :lol:
I was inspired by your
stevie_d_64 in another post wrote:it's for the children
comment. :lol:
Its ok to be inspired...

I'm an inspiring person... :lol:

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:44 pm
by dws1117
:roll: Where is that barf smilie?

It is getting deep in here.

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:40 am
by anygunanywhere
dws1117 wrote::roll: Where is that barf smilie?

It is getting deep in here.
Let me tuck my Wranglers into my boots so my pants don't get dirty.

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:57 pm
by Arock
Open carry.


Arock