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Gun-Control Advocate: Napolitano Report on ‘Rightwing Extremists’ Makes Case for Gun Ban

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Washington (CNSNews.com) – An April 7 report from the Department of Homeland Security branding some conservative groups as “rightwing extremists” is enough reason to revive former President Bill Clinton’s idea of an assault-weapons ban, according to an executive of a gun-control group--the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence.

"I think it certainly helps to make that case because what that report suggests is that there is a rise in the kind of paramilitary activity that we saw actually in years before the Oklahoma City bombing,” Dennis Henigan, the vice president for law and policy at the Brady Center, told CNSNews.com Wednesday

Henigan talked about the years before the 1995 Oklahoma City tragedy--when “rightwing extremist militia groups (were) out training with assault weapons, training for war against the United States government, training to shoot federal law enforcement,” he said.

“Now, unfortunately there is very credible evidence that that is beginning to happen again,” Henigan added later. “So, there is no place on our streets for these kinds of military weapons.”

He described assault weapons as being “designed for war,” adding that, “they are designed basically to kill as many people as possible, as quickly as possible in a battlefield situation.”

Henigan spoke to CNSNews.com after he testified before a House subcommittee on Capitol Hill in support of the No Fly, No Buy Act of 2009, sponsored by New York Democratic Reps. Carolyn McCarthy and Steve Israel.

Neither McCarthy nor Israel answered inquiries from CNSNews.com to comment on Heinigan's comment.

The legislation, which is still in draft form and has not been introduced yet, is aimed at keeping individuals that are on the Department of Homeland Security’s Transportation Security Administration “no fly list” from being able to purchase guns. The “no fly list” is aimed at keeping suspected terrorists off planes.

In response to Henigan’s comments, the National Rifle Association told CNSNews.com that the Brady Center was “exploiting” the DHS report to push its “political agenda.”

“Mr. Henigan’s employer has been trying to re-enact this gun ban by exploiting the tragic situation that’s occurring in Mexico right now as a result of violence by drug cartels,” NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam told CNSNews.com.

“Now he’s using a report that was widely criticized by various people as being insulting to our veterans and I think this is just further proof they will say anything and will do anything to push their political agenda with little or no regard for fact,” he added.

The NRA spokesman further pointed out that during the 10 years when the assault weapons ban was the law, studies show, the ban was ineffective.

“Numerous studies, without including studies commissioned by the Clinton Justice Department--in every single one of those studies it was found that the ban was worthless,” Arulanandam told CNSnews.com.

“As a result, 10 years after this law was enacted, it was allowed to expire,” he added.

In April, DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano released a report warning that “right-wing extremists” were “gaining new recruits by playing on their fears about several emergent issues”--including the election of President Obama and “the economic downturn.”

The report, which is considered insulting by many conservatives, warns of the dangers of “anti-government” groups and others “in opposition to abortion or immigration”--as well as returning veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan, who, it said “face significant challenges reintegrating into their communities.”

According to the report: “Proposed imposition of firearms restrictions and weapons bans likely would attract new members into the ranks of rightwing extremist groups, as well as potentially spur some of them to begin planning and training for violence against the government.”

The report added that the “high volume” of purchases and “stockpiling of weapons and ammunition by rightwing extremists in anticipation of restrictions” in some parts of the country has become “a primary concern” for law enforcement.
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Seems to me the only thing THEY have to fear, is the fear they spread...

THEY are pushing all the wrong buttons for all the wrong reasons...
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this is so blatantly easy to refute with fundamentally sound retorts, that it is child's play. So a few groups of "extremists" may or may not be planning to use certain weapons to overthrow the government - so let's BAN ALL SUCH WEAPONS FROM EVERYONE .... makes about as much sense as banning all airplanes, banning all fertilizer, or strip-searching every person of Middle Eastern descent (oh wait, that would be "profiling").

but I do like how I am now officially considered by my government to be a "right-wing extremist" because I am stockpiling some ammunition before they get a chance to ban it or tax it to death.

:roll:

I am actually feeling better about the overall state of the gun rights debate in this country. The anti-gunners are grasping at straws and showing publicly the extreme nature of their illegitimate arguments. They can't even come up with a sound argument anymore. At least the "it will reduce crime" argument of 15 years ago sounded reasonable. The current anti-gun arguments (to save Mexico and to prevent another Oklahoma City bombing) sound like paranoid delusions.

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The irony of the whole thing, is statements from the Brady campaign have as much to do with the obsessive buying as Obama's election. Then statements like this from Henigan just sold another train load of .223, and 7.62 calibers.
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stevie_d_64 wrote:
Washington (CNSNews.com) – An April 7 report from the Department of Homeland Security branding some conservative groups as “rightwing extremists” is enough reason to revive former President Bill Clinton’s idea of an assault-weapons ban, according to an executive of a gun-control group--the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence.

"I think it certainly helps to make that case because what that report suggests is that there is a rise in the kind of paramilitary activity that we saw actually in years before the Oklahoma City bombing,” Dennis Henigan, the vice president for law and policy at the Brady Center, told CNSNews.com Wednesday

According to the report: “Proposed imposition of firearms restrictions and weapons bans likely would attract new members into the ranks of rightwing extremist groups, as well as potentially spur some of them to begin planning and training for violence against the government.”
So, if I understand these statements, he supports legislation that could lead to violence against the government.

Sounds like may be HE should be on a terrorist watch list.
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mymojo wrote:So, if I understand these statements, he supports legislation that could lead to violence against the government.
Agent provocateur?
mymojo wrote:Sounds like may be HE should be on a terrorist watch list.
That makes sense because the Brady Center is anti-American and uses fear and terror as a weapon.
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“Now he’s using a report that was widely criticized by various people as being insulting to our veterans and I think this is just further proof they will say anything and will do anything to push their political agenda with little or no regard for fact,” he added.
He should reread his own statements. He is doing the exact thing that he claims others are doing.
The report, which is considered insulting by many conservatives, warns of the dangers of “anti-government” groups and others “in opposition to abortion or immigration”--as well as returning veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan, who, it said “face significant challenges reintegrating into their communities.”
Here is the same thing to Vietnam veterans most publicly by people like the author of this article. He and other far left liberals are the cause and yet they want to fix us rather than come to a compromise.
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One has to wonder when those who fight for their country, demand that we live as free people and those that insist that the Constitution means what it says are considered the enemy. Those that were asked by are Government to put their life on the line to defend free nations against the socialist are the enemy Those that take part in in nationalizing our industry, financial institutes and medical care are running our nation. Those that would defend our country against Muslim terrorist, and go to church, are concidered morally corrupt. Those who would take money from people to pay the politically connect are "doing the right thing".
How about Sodomites calling the men and women gathering to speak of family values bigots and teabaggers.
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Medino wrote: Here is the same thing to Vietnam veterans most publicly by people like the author of this article. He and other far left liberals are the cause and yet they want to fix us rather than come to a compromise.
I find the irony of people labeled as "extremists" or "threats to America" for their beliefs, demonizing others, calling them "extremists" or "threats to America" for their beliefs, rich indeed.
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nitrogen wrote:I find the irony of people labeled as "extremists" or "threats to America" for their beliefs, demonizing others, calling them "extremists" or "threats to America" for their beliefs, rich indeed.
Irony would require equivalency between the two groups. I'd love an example of Iraq/Afghanistan vets, or Republicans, right wingers, whatever term you'd like to use organizing a group with lots of support in a civilian population planning to assault the US and murder thousands of civilians.

nitrogen, I found a real example of irony for you. Have fun with it. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... =worldwide
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74novaman wrote:
nitrogen wrote:I find the irony of people labeled as "extremists" or "threats to America" for their beliefs, demonizing others, calling them "extremists" or "threats to America" for their beliefs, rich indeed.
Irony would require equivalency between the two groups. I'd love an example of Iraq/Afghanistan vets, or Republicans, right wingers, whatever term you'd like to use organizing a group with lots of support in a civilian population planning to assault the US and murder thousands of civilians.

nitrogen, I found a real example of irony for you. Have fun with it. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... =worldwide
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